Round butt vs. square butt?

B_Still · Sep 2, 2019

I'm new to revolvers and recently purchased my first S&W: Model 65. It came with round butt wood combat stocks, but seller threw in a pair of Hogue rubber grips.

They fit ok, except at the bottom rear where the round butt of the frame tucks into the square butt of the grip. I haven't shot it with this grip yet, but I wonder if the exposed grip channel is going to dig into my palm, especially when shooting .357.

Is that normally how a Hogue grip fits on a round butt gun? Or is does Hogue make a rubber grip style specifically to fit flush on a round butt frame, and I just got the wrong style?

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wproct · Sep 2, 2019

No, I don't think those are the proper grips for a round butt frame. On mine, the back of the grip comes up further on the frame and is more blended in.

Pizza Bob · Sep 2, 2019

Those grips are for a square butt frame. Hogue does make a monogrip, wood, rubber or G10 for round butt K/L frames.

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PS: Looks like a great excuse to seek out and buy a square butt K/L frame - as if we needed an excuse.

federali · Sep 2, 2019

Model 65

Indeed the grips you have convert a round butt to a square butt. The Model 65 round butt is one of the all time great defensive revolvers. I own a round butt model and would never part with it. These guns are exceedingly comfortable with both the original grips and a Tyler T-grip adaptor or a set of rubber grips intended for the round butt. I think Hogue makes them.

B_Still · Sep 2, 2019

This is my gun (65-8) with the wood stocks it came with. Probably not original?

I also assume the bobbed hammer is not original. The top edge of the hammer is shiny, where I assume the spur was filed off.

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El Biblioitecario · Sep 2, 2019

If those Hogue grips were mine I would find a nice dog and give him the Hogue grips to chew on, then order a set of Herrett stocks made specifically for that frame size. Others may feel differently.

murphydog · Sep 2, 2019

B_Still said:
This is my gun (65-8) with the wood stocks it came with. Probably not original?

I also assume the bobbed hammer is not original. The top edge of the hammer is shiny, where I assume the spur was filed off.

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Yes, those are Hogue wood stocks; the rubber type that fits your gun are similar in appearance. Some S & W K frame revolvers had bobbed hammer spurs from the factory but I don't recall seeing one with an MIM part.

dr. mordo · Sep 2, 2019

I'd get some Altamont magnas and a BK-grip on that gun STAT.

Here's my Model 10 in similar trim:

B_Still · Sep 2, 2019

The Magnas I like.

Is there any way to know what would have been the factory grip when gun was new?

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murphydog · Sep 2, 2019

Some type of rubber stocks, perhaps Uncle Mike's.

BB57 · Sep 2, 2019

B_Still said:
This is my gun (65-8) with the wood stocks it came with. Probably not original?

I also assume the bobbed hammer is not original. The top edge of the hammer is shiny, where I assume the spur was filed off.

Some police departments ordered revolvers that were set up as double action only. They normally not only had bobbed hammers but also had the single action sear removed so that it could not be cocked at all.

On the other hand, some revolver owners bob the hammer to eliminate the potential for it to snag, something that makes a small amount of sense for a pocket pistol but I never saw the point on a K or L frame revolvers. Most of these conversions will still have the single action sear and the hammer can be cocked once it is raised enough with the trigger to get a grip on it. It is however not safe to do that.

Finally, you'll occasionally find old and worn revolvers where the hammer was bobbed after the revolver developed excessive wear on the single action sear to the point the hammer would "push off" the sear if pressed or bumped. Rather than spend money installing a new hammer, they'd just bob the hammer to reduce the ability to cock the hammer.

BB57 · Sep 2, 2019

federali said:
Indeed the grips you have convert a round butt to a square butt. The Model 65 round butt is one of the all time great defensive revolvers. I own a round butt model and would never part with it. These guns are exceedingly comfortable with both the original grips and a Tyler T-grip adaptor or a set of rubber grips intended for the round butt. I think Hogue makes them.

There are grips that convert a round butt to a square butt, but they fit flush to the backstrap.

The OP's grips are not the correct grips for a round butt revolver.

smoothshooter · Sep 2, 2019

Take a belt sander the square butt grips and make them fit your gun.
So easy to do, yet most guys are terrified of trying it for some reason.

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