does anyone know of a case where a 500 mag was used

thebolt said:
I investigated a suspicious death involving a gunshot to the head of an adult woman from a 50 Desert Eagle. Different caliber but others mentioned different calibers and I thought this might be close enough to mention
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And then there were the two Darwin Awardees. They wanted to see if their 50 DE could penetrate a phone book. Instead of leaning the book against a berm or a tree, the guy held it on his chest and the girl friend shot the phone book. Education time, the 50 DE blew through the book and killed the guy.

How STUPID can people be? Don
 
DonD said:
And then there were the two Darwin Awardees. They wanted to see if their 50 DE could penetrate a phone book. Instead of leaning the book against a berm or a tree, the guy held it on his chest and the girl friend shot the phone book. Education time, the 50 DE blew through the book and killed the guy.

How STUPID can people be? Don
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At least she had a phone book so she could look up the number for 911.
 
Phone book hunting? :D
Throw some wet ones on a berm and as you walk around from 100yds to 50 yds, quickly mount/draw the firearm, and pop those phonebooks.
Fun practice at the long gone Sunrise Police range.

American Trap is from a mounted position but once you can often break 25, it's a good idea to practice mounting the gun after the pull.

Did that long ago with a No.1H/458 and should try that with my 460/3.5" with the gun already in my hand and a fly rod in the other. :D

Must remember to drop the rod not the gun. :eek:
 
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I saw a video of a feral hog being shot center mass with a 500 magnum, spraying the trees with tissue and organs, it just got up and ran off. Then another video of feral pigs getting picked off with 22LR, immediately hitting the ground motionless.
 
__steve__ said:
I saw a video of a feral hog being shot center mass with a 500 magnum, spraying the trees with tissue and organs, it just got up and ran off. Then another video of feral pigs getting picked off with 22LR, immediately hitting the ground motionless.
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... really?
 
cmj8591 said:
Yes, I do but I don't agree with your answer because, as I said, in order to be valid, you need to look at what you are comparing under equal conditions. Your response compares two bullets designed to do different things. It's a bit misleading. Plus it is based on anecdotal tests, which don't always give a true picture.
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Ok friend I did some more research while on the throne and came up with the apples 2 apples you were asking for. 444 Marlin 300gr jacketed bullet @ max load 2082fps and the 500 Magnum 300gr jacketed bullet @ max load 2139fps. So unless I misread the info from the loading book which I don't believe to be the case then the 500 is hotter. There are other rifle calibers that are too close to call so I will leave it at this.:)
 
9mmsubgun-m11 said:
Ok friend I did some more research while on the throne and came up with the apples 2 apples you were asking for. 444 Marlin 300gr jacketed bullet @ max load 2082fps and the 500 Magnum 300gr jacketed bullet @ max load 2139fps. So unless I misread the info from the loading book which I don't believe to be the case then the 500 is hotter. There are other rifle calibers that are too close to call so I will leave it at this.:)
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That's better! You just had to go to the right library for the info!
 
A .50 caliber bullet is still a HALF inch in diameter. A half inch hole completely through your body is going to do some SERIOUS damage on the way through. Kind of like being shot with a .50 Sharps rifle. In fact, I think the .500 Smith would be MORE powerful than the Sharps. I know what kind of energy MY .500 Smith puts in my hand when fired, so, whether I'm shooting at a deer, or a human, there's gonna be some SERIOUS damage done. Don't think either would be walking away from it. On the other hand, some neighbors 3 blocks down the street probably won't be walking away from it, either. As much as I like my .500, I won't be using it for self-defense while at HOME!
 
9mmsubgun-m11 said:
Ok friend I did some more research while on the throne and came up with the apples 2 apples you were asking for. 444 Marlin 300gr jacketed bullet @ max load 2082fps and the 500 Magnum 300gr jacketed bullet @ max load 2139fps. So unless I misread the info from the loading book which I don't believe to be the case then the 500 is hotter. There are other rifle calibers that are too close to call so I will leave it at this.:)
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I guess I don't know where you're going with this.

500 Mag - Underwood 350gr Hornady XTP, 1912 fps/2841 ft lbs
Hodgdon .444 Max load, 300gr soft point, 2082 fps/2887 ft lbs, 24" bbl by the way, not a pistol barrel.

In my experience, Underwoods claims are pretty accurate. Both my 40 S&W and 10mm auto chronograph very close to published numbers. Don
 
Univibe said:
If they ever remake Dirty Harry, the gun will be an 8-inch 500 magnum.

They'll have to change the script to read, "five shots, or only four . . . "

But who would play the Detective?
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This is 2021. No gun or badge, the iconic character would be replaced by a social worker trained to deescalate situations and to talk about feelings.

The new DH would be armed with gummi bears and Kleenex.
 
BC38 said:
LOL, yeah, if he were a real person.
Maybe I misunderstood - I thought we were talking about real life - not Hollyweird... :D
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Didn't Harry tell those rookies at the range in Magnum Force that he carried 44Special loads in his 29?
 
9mmsubgun-m11 said:
No such thing as overkill. .500 S&W still doesn't approach what a rifle can do.




I beg to differ with this statement. The 500 Mag will penetrate 50 inch's of wet newsprint which is double that of the 458 Magnum.
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Your comment made me think of the time at a local shop when two yuppie types came in wanting big revolvers to take to Alaska for bear. Should they get 44 mags or 454s....this older gent who had lived up there for a couple decades in his youth told them, when you get those pistols take them to a gunsmith to remove the front sights. When they asked him why, he said so it won't hurt so bad when the bear shoves it up your *** ......then proceeded to explain to them why they needed a rifle....an entertaining and educational afternoon...
 
DonD said:
That statement shows an ignorance of what the 500 Mag can do. If you're not experienced with the gun, don't pontificate.

I've shot 308 soft points at gallon jugs of water and all it does is make them bounce around. The 500 vaporizes them like a bomb. I once shot 7 gallon jugs, huge geyser, it soaked me and soaked the sand 25' either side of the jugs.

The 500 Mag will out penetrate a 338 Win Mag and I consider it fully the equal of the 338 when it comes to dealing with dangerous game. Don
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Not a 500 but the 460 with IIRC hornady 200g factory loads shooting a 2liter full of water.
Ground was nearly completely dry.

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DonD said:
I guess I don't know where you're going with this.

500 Mag - Underwood 350gr Hornady XTP, 1912 fps/2841 ft lbs
Hodgdon .444 Max load, 300gr soft point, 2082 fps/2887 ft lbs, 24" bbl by the way, not a pistol barrel.

In my experience, Underwoods claims are pretty accurate. Both my 40 S&W and 10mm auto chronograph very close to published numbers. Don
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My statement was in response to the poster who claimed the 500 could not do what a rifle can. It can and in some instances will out perform certain rifle calibers.
 
rogerwnuss said:
Didn't Harry tell those rookies at the range in Magnum Force that he carried 44Special loads in his 29?
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Like so many other things in the "Dirty Harry" universe, people take bits and pieces and try to apply it to everything in the franchise.


Given the other evidence and implied power of the loads he uses on the street, as a competition shooter I always took the scene at the range with the rookies to be his statement about his loads used for practice and use at the range in the upcoming competition since he'd be shooting against officers equipped with 38's and 357's. No where else does he ever say or even imply that he uses less than a magnum load in any of the films.
 
NFrameFred said:
Like so many other things in the "Dirty Harry" universe, people take bits and pieces and try to apply it to everything in the franchise.


Given the other evidence and implied power of the loads he uses on the street, as a competition shooter I always took the scene at the range with the rookies to be his statement about his loads used for practice and use at the range in the upcoming competition since he'd be shooting against officers equipped with 38's and 357's. No where else does he ever say or even imply that he uses less than a magnum load in any of the films.
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Same comment in another movie with his female partner, his comment was that it gave him better control and that he hits what he aims at.
 
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