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Model 350 | Smith & Wesson

Thoughts?

Mike

It’s a good fit for the platform but not sure it will draw large numbers of sales away from .357 Magnums. Also, the “common rifle/handgun cartridge” concept is appealing, but this weighs nearly as much as some lightweight .350 Legend rifles!

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Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

It sounds like the answer to a question no one was asking. It will flop.

The 350 Legend appeals to me and would be a big step up from the 35 Remington T/C Contender. A gun I've had owned since 1980 and shot more deer with than anything else.

Given how few revolvers other than snubbies are out there it could be many months before they are actually available from the mother ship S&W!

Wow, I didn’t see that coming. Hope it sells.

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I was rather surprised when I saw the S&W release this morning on YouTube. While this particular cartridge and revolver may have a future with the IHMSA crowd, handgun hunters, and the "give me more power" crowd, it's not a combination that is sparking my interest.

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Goes good with your AR-15 in 350 Legend, or your Henry single shot, or some other bolt action rifle.

I'm not their target audience but I'm sure glad they keep putting out new/different stuff in the firearms world. It's good to have choices

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Jorge

Interesting as is the .30 Super Carry. Due to my ignorance on both, I dont foresee either in my immediate future.

Should be a good deer and hog buster at 50 yards, though I'd much prefer a dark finish on a hunting handgun to the bright stainless.

Cool. I wonder what kind of velocities it will get. I am thinking around1800fps from a 150 gr bullet. A 357 158 gr Herret gets 2000 from a 12" barrel with no gap and about 1850 with a 10"

I would like to get an X frame cylinder with just 5 or 6 pilots and make a 30 Herret

Get the 350 Legend and make your own 35 Herret cylinder! Maybe you could make it an 8 shooter. I don't know the bolt circle on X frames, or I could figure out how many of what size would fit.

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While that would be interesting, I think a 308 caliber would be a screamer. My 30 Herret gives me 2300fps with a 110gr and 2100 with a 130gr.

I have even dreamed of a bottle necked 30 in an N frame. The 357 Bain and Davis, while interesting, just didn't give that much more bang for the buck. I have several loose N frame 357 barrels and cylinders and have never been impressed enough to make one. I am more temped to ream a 44 cylinder right to the stop notches, put in some heat treated 4140 inserts and ream them to a shortened 30 herret and make a 308 cal barrel similar to what I did for a 327 K frame

I guess that's my thought on the X-frame in general. By the time you carry a handgun that big and heavy, you might as well carry a lightweight rifle.

To each their own though.

It is good see Smith doing something on the revolver side though. It seems they barely make revolvers any more.

They’d be able to make and sell more if they’d just get rid of that silly lock and hole.

Isn't that called a 357 Max?

With the rim missing..

You'll get no argument from me on that.

Which is me to a T.
I hunt deer and coyotes with a 350 in both bolt and AR platform. I think it’s a fabulous cartridge for this. I built a 7.5 inch 350 AR Pistol and it’s a hoot. Really this revolver should be a mild gun to shoot. I was tempted once to buy a BFR in 350, now I’m glad I waited. I’m going to have to start saving up my money.

I live in a state that allows me to use this for deer, as it is a straight wall cartridge. And I am interested.I will be looking into one of these when they are released, cost of shooting will be 1/3 of my 44mag.

Tad less powder capacity, lower max psi for the Maximum.

This gonna require moonclips?

From what I read 7 shot with moon clip

Seems like a niche caliber and gun filling a small niche.
Not interested in the least.

While I agree that carrying a X frame especial one with 8 or more inch barrel isn't saving much over a rifle. I have a Mohawk 600 in 350 Rem mag which weights 5.5 empty and is only 39" overall, add a pound plus for wearing a 3x9X Redfield wide view and it sure isn't much harder to carry than a 71 oz (4.6#)X frame. But a scope on an X frame and add a lb to it and a bunch of bulk. I have a 8 3/8" 500. It was way bulky with a 2X Leopold. Went to regular sights.

But, exactly how handy they are isn't the point. What you chose to carry and for what is a personal choice. Unless I had a moose permit I probably would' take that 350 mag or my X frame hunting. Maybe if I was going fishing where there were LOTS of big bears. `But, that is me. Not you. It is great that we have lots of choices.


While the 350 Legend ain't tripping my trigger I can see where some stated restrictions can make it a nice option. It actually should be real effective to. Plus, it should be a lot of fun.

Look at rifles do we "need" all the 17s. 204, 22, 243, 6.5 270. .284. 7mm. 300. 338 350 416 458, 500s LOL

Got to love all the choices no mater how silly some of it is and how ridiculously small the differences.

Specs are:
double action only.

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Well, since I have both the 460 and 500 I may as well go with this one. A nice trifecta and an interesting caliber.

I’m with jag1954. I like more choices, too, and like that S & W is making new revolvers. Neighbor tells me this is a great deer cartridge in an AR, especially for the recoil shy. Rifle and handguns chambered for same cartridges always interest me. Sounds like I’m in line for one.

Cause this is 'merica!

I've emailed Ruger about making a 350 Legend Mini-14. Kind of a throwback to the Win 1907 .351. Would make an amazing 'house gun' for four and two legged critters in the country. Never heard back. Maybe because I also bugged them to make one in .450BM.

I'm sure this revolver has a market, but it's not for me. Well, until Ruger makes that rifle at least...

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In terms of real world ballistics, given use in a revolver (and inherent limitations & characteristics), there's not much to choose from between the 350 Legend and the 357 Maximum. Or, perhaps I'll qualify that by saying: if you're a handloader.
If you're a cast bullet shooter, all the more so.
The 357 Maximum offers a lot of advantages being a rimmed cartridge.
Once you start loading 35 cal. cast rifle bullets with a wide meplat for hunting use, the ability to properly crimp without worrying about either headspacing or bullet set-back due to recoil, makes the advantages of the rimmed Maximum case obvious.

But, as a marketing gimmick, and/or as a pairing for those who own a rifle in 350 Legend and/or only shoot factory ammo, by all means, enjoy!

Funny to observe that, right off the bat, folks are wondering what other cartridges they can rechamber it for.
Might I suggest a wildcat .358-444 Marlin?!

I saw that listed on the spec list on the website also.

Bet ya a dollar that someone fat fingered something, no way this is a DAO X-frame.

I have no real interest in the .350 Legend but I think this new model is a great thing and I hope it means they will expand the huge X-frame to other calibers. I think it would be tons of fun in .327 Federal Magnum.

I will say that the .350 Legend is perplexing in a 7-shot. The X-frame cylinder is GIGUNDO in size and S&W has successfully made an 8-shot N-frame .357 Magnum so one less round of .350 Legend in a larger cylinder seems odd to me.

Anyway, I think this is a neat intro, hope it gains steam.

If that's not a typo then that's incredibly stupid!

Moonclips & Power Ports don't excite me either.

Front sight is pinned, not a quick change.

I'm not feelin' it.

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Copied from Smith site:
Specs

SKU 13331
Model Model 350
Caliber 350 Legend
Capacity 7
Length 13.5
Front Sight Red Ramp
Rear Sight Adjustable
Action Double Action Only
Grip Synthetic
Cylinder Material Stainless Steel
Barrel Material Stainless Steel
Frame Material Stainless Steel
Frame Finish Satin Stainless
Barrel Twist 1:18.75
Barrel Length 7.5" (19.1 cm)
Weight 71.5 oz.
State Compliance

Nice to see a normal muzzle on an X Frame.

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I think I just found my new EDC!

Funny thing about double action. It actually means it works 2 ways. I am sure they mean that it comes only as a double action revolver, not as a single action.

Would hardly be the first time someone in the ad department didn't actually understand the product.

Marketing folks are probably millennials.

With all that meat around the cylinder, they might have been able to make it a 9 shot.

Rosewood

I'm kidding around of course.

This new chambering gives handgun hunters are new choice.

350 Legend is gaining some traction so ammo should be available.

It is straight walled which is important in some locations.

I look forward to hearing about how the revolver/cartridge performs.

I am admittedly not an X frame fan. If you need more power than a .44 mag ( which is more than most can handle) get a rifle

Hmmm, how many times have you been reading thru the SCoSW and seen where they made a certain model that flopped and wished that you'd have bought one....My wheels are turning.

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Todd

Nobody wanted any of those early K32s
The 16-4 32 H&R mags were slow movers
the same with the alloy J frame 32s

Go buy any of them know, Used ones are at least double what a 38 or 357 sell for.

Yeppers, my point exactly.

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Todd

Not being personal and I left the name off... this is yet another tired, retreaded, useless gun forum trope. Not every gun ever made has to be the ultimate in cold practicality. And why is .44 Magnum the "chosen by God" cutoff for the most power needed? Why not .41 Magnum?

Who cares what one person believes that MOST people can handle? I've got .460 Magnum and .454 Casull already, perhaps I'm not MOST people. Who are MOST people and who sits on the board of judgement of what MOST people can handle?

Bunch of nonsense. We shop for handguns by want and not need. If everything was dwindled down to a grayscale need then every household would be issued a lever action .30/30 and a pump 12 gauge and there would be nothing whatsoever on the market to choose from and enjoy.

Maybe I should have said my opinion only and I'll stand by my opinion. I am not recoil sensitive by any means but if I want to develop anticipation in my trigger press a box of .44 mags thru one of my 29's will accomplish that in short order. I did say "I'm not a fan of the X frame" if you want one, by all means get one. I harbor no ill will towards your opinion. I will also stand by by my belief that a .44 mag is more than most people can handle. My opinion is based on over 40 years of Law Enforcement with 35 years as a firearms instructor. I have trained hundreds of officers on the range with everything from 9mm to .44 magnums and everything in between. Not everybody is Elmer Keith

I'm set with my 357 maximum and all the gear surrounding it. Maybe my favorite caliber.


A 350 with a DA only, $1600 price, moonclips, headspacing on the rim, rubber grips, and 72oz weight; it just doesn't sound like my kind of shooter.


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Apparently S&W has forgotten how badly the .357 Maximum worked in revolvers.

Top strap cutting and forcing cone erosion were already epically bad in the .357 Maximum running at 40,000 psi.

Given the .350 Legend runs at 55,000 psi those issues should be awesomely bad in the new Model 350.

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I don’t really get the .350 Legend as a rifle cartridge either, given that most states that require pistol cartridges in rifles for deer hunting purposes also allow or grandfather in the .375 Win and or .38-55.

Indiana is the only exception that comes immediately to mind, and frankly the performance of the approved .350 Legend makes a strong case for also approving the similar performing .38-55.

How long after this comes out will a 223 version come? Then the custom stuff, a 6x45 would be a dream for me.

Living in Southern Michigan I am a big fan of the caliber, but no interest at all in a huge heavy handgun chambered for it.

I would be very interested in S&W bringing back the Contender and chambering it in 350 with a 16 inch barrel. I have thought seriously about getting a barrel for my Encore, but that is overkill weight wise for this cartridge.

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Pretty cool they are putting out something new. wonder if they could pull off 350 legend in a Governor since the cylinder and frame have been stretched to accommodate .410

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J.D.

I do not think top strap erosion will be a problem with it. The 500 handles 60,000psi and the 460 is supposed to be able to handle 65,000psi, Plus, both of them are burning way more powder than a 350 and the edge outside edge of either is closet to the top strap than the 350 would be. It happens on them yes, but apparently gets no worse than a 357 or 44 mag in smaller guns.

The 357 max was in a smaller frame with a smaller cylinder so the blast is much closer to the strap.

I do imagine throat erosion will occur more rapidly than on 1300-1500 fps rounds. No surprise there, a 22 hornet barrel will last forever, not so a 220 swift or 22-250. Full blown 22 Jets same deal. But, with a shrouded barrel you can just install a new liner and on a one piece barrel do like I did with my Jet, Take off the barrel turn .0277 of the rear shoulder, and face of barrel shank, re cut the forcing cone and go back to shooting. The money you will have spend in ammo, even reloading, will be way more that the cost of a barrel set back. If you are reloading you can back off your target ammo.

Once again I highly doubt the gun can not be used in single action mode.
$5 to a hole in a doughnut it is an as dept error.

Recoil on my 8 3/8" 500 is not one bit worse than my 6" model 29 or 629. The X frames weight helps a lot on that part. I would bet a 350 with 158gr bullets will recoil less than a 44 mag running 240s

It's single/double action according to the website. No surprise there.

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Guess they read this thread and made it right.

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