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LGS has a used one of these at a good price. Any of you folks own one and what is your opinion of it? I am sure it is a hand full
with 357 on board but might make a good 38 for CCW with the 357 as black bear and coyote protection.
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The Model 60 Pro is a wonderful revolver. I liked it from the first moment I saw it.

Heck 357 Magnum ammunition is a handful for lots of people even in the Model 19/66 revolvers

I have had mine for a dozen or more years.



It is accurate with a good set of adjustable sights. It even comes with a nice set of grips

Interesting, mine does not say "Pro Series" on it even though it is

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I bought one because i have 2 686 ssr and 627 pc 5".I don't shoot it alot but it is suprisingly accurate for a small frame gun.38 special +p is comfortable out of it and golden sabers are very accurate and not to uncomfortable.If i were to carry it i would probably get some culina combat's for it.It has one of the better triggers of j frames i have shot.
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I have the earlier version of this revolver that's chambered .38 Special +P. It's one of my favorite J frames; tack-driving accurate. I've got a thing for 3" barreled J frames and it scratches the itch.

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I have the 60-10 3". One of my favorites and if I didn't have it I'd get a 60-15 pro. I think you will enjoy it.

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I have the 60-10 3". One of my favorites and if I didn't have it I'd get a 60-15 pro. I think you will enjoy it.

Gorgeous.

I think the 3" barrel J frames are one of the prettiest guns that Smith & Wesson has ever produced. Probably not a coincidence for me, since the Model 1 also had a 3" (technically 3 3/16") barrel.

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I've had a 60-15 for a number of years now. I bought it as a carry gun, but it got replaced by my 640-1 when I got it.

No fault of the 60-15 though. I still use it when hiking in the woods. I keep it loaded with some 158 grain .357's with a pointed tip that my father-in-law reloaded and gave me.

If you buy one, keep an eye on all the screws as they have a tendency to loosen while shooting, especially the one holding the rear sight assembly on and the cylinder release.

Very accurate and fun to shoot little gun!

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I have a 60-15 and it is accurate, easy to pack. 357s are doable with confidence. All screws on revolvers backout due to the physics of recoil. Should check all sideplate screws on a regular basis. I check mine after a shooting session.
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I had one and foolishly traded it for a nice 19-3 thinking I was coming out money ahead. Turns out all I did was trade my favorite woods gun for a safe queen. Live and learn. I will eventually buy another.

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60,66,686.
You wont be disappointed.
Bonus wife and kids have a really good time with the 60 and wadcutters. Just leave the 357 in the ammo box
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buy it you will never regret it.
shoot 38's .
great training gun for women and kids and 500% better than a 2" 642 for shooting.
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I bought mine back in 2015. I like the gun but not my favorite. Use gloves when shooting the .357. Much nicer when shooting the +P or the .38 special. Do not like the sights.


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I was not happy with my original front sight. I always had a hard time focusing on ramp fronts. I swapped mine out for a fiber optic and liked it much better. I would have loved to find a patridge style but couldn't.
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I bought mine back in 2015. I like the gun but not my favorite. Use gloves when shooting the .357. Much nicer when shooting the +P or the .38 special. Do not like the sights.


Exactly what I would have commented regarding mine other than I bought it new just a couple years ago.
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Love mine. I did put a very light brushing of clear nail polish on the screw threads of the sight retaining screw. I have a Galco Stinger holster for it, and Herrett's Detective stocks. I have no idea what it's like to shoot .357's in it, and doubt I ever will. ;-)
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I have a regular 60-15. I just can't like the undercut lug. Spoils the aesthetics and looks like Legos to me....
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Model 60 3” 357
Model 63 3” 22LR
Great little guns, my 63 now has the same style grips as the 60
They both fit the same holsters too!
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The sights make this a really shootable J Frame. The front sight on the older models is really narrow, and gets thinner every year I get older. But the 60-15 with its adjustable sights makes a world of difference!
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I perfer the regular 60 3" over the Pro. I am not a fan of the pointless ejection rod window, the angular cut on the under lug, or the cheap Taurus level budget beadblast finish instead of the brushed stainless. The beadblast finish will show every scratch, and cannot easily be buffed out.

I had the opportunity to purchase a 60 Pro, but there's really nothing "pro" about it. If it had the 640 Pro sights and was cut for moon clips like the 640 Pro, the 686 Performance, and the 627 Performance, then I'd suggest the 60 Pro.

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I have had both the 60-15 Pro you mentioned and an older full underlug 60-4 in .38 Special. Sold the Pro model and still have the full underlug.

The Pro model had a canted barrel and had to go back for repair. I also didn't care for the light barrel feel, and it wasn't as accurate with any load as the full underlug version.

My general experience with the Pro Series is that they aren't. I've been very happy with the full underlug model, it's more accurate than I am.
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I bought a 60-15 pro series new in 2020 as my foray back to revolvers after 25+ years. Really liked the concept and enjoyed shooting it until the problems began after a few months of ownership that resulted in 4 trips to the factory. The worst of the issues included a locked up cylinder, a broken trigger stud, and the ubiquitous canted barrel that no amount of sight adjustment could compensate for. All issued were fixed (except the canted barrel), but the love was lost and I replaced it with a 66-8 which is a great revolver. Maybe my 60-15 was just a lemon. I hope the other 60-15s out there are as good as I wanted mine to be.
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I bought a 60-15 pro series new in 2020 as my foray back to revolvers after 25+ years. Really liked the concept and enjoyed shooting it until the problems began after a few months of ownership that resulted in 4 trips to the factory. The worst of the issues included a locked up cylinder, a broken trigger stud, and the ubiquitous canted barrel that no amount of sight adjustment could compensate for. All issued were fixed (except the canted barrel), but the love was lost and I replaced it with a 66-8 which is a great revolver. Maybe my 60-15 was just a lemon. I hope the other 60-15s out there are as good as I wanted mine to be.
I'm convinced that once in a while, the factory produces a gun that should have never left. Whether it's some structural issue with the frame or a myriad of little issues or something else, it's one of those guns that'll just never be made right. As much as I hate thinking about guns being destroyed, it sounds like your was one that should have been tossed back into foundry pot.

For what it's worth, I had a 986 that was like that ... I just couldn't get it right, Smith couldn't get it right, and I ended up parting ways with it. I don't have any hard feelings, though ... I've got a safe full of great S&W revolvers and I'm sure I can get another one if I get the bug for a 9mm wheel gun.

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My general experience with the Pro Series is that they aren't. I've been very happy with the full underlug model, it's more accurate than I am.
For what it's worth, the Pro Series revolvers are actually a great value (lemons notwithstanding). Generally speaking, they go through the same hand tuning that the Performance Center guns do; they generally just don't have the higher level finish. Sort of like a "budget" Model 28 versus a Model 27.

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The 3" J-frames are nice. The wood grips are fine for .38 Special. I would use rubber grips for .357.
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Here is my favorite two J frames! The 60 Pro and the 640 Pro!

The grips were made by Curt Harlow to fit my hand! Proper fitting grips make all the difference when shooting 357s from the J frame platform! The 640 Pro is cut for full moon clips. Both sets appear to be the same configuration but they are not! The 640 has the backstrap exposed but the 60 has the backstrap covered with about 3/16" of wood! This is because of the SA trigger pull length of the mod 60 and most of my shooting with this gun is SA.
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I have a regular 60-15. I just can't like the undercut lug. Spoils the aesthetics and looks like Legos to me....
I agree!

I own "regular" 60-10's and 60-15's

I also own 640 Pro's, which I do like.

The look of the 60-15 Pro is a major turn off for me, and I have no desire to have one.

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I've had a 60-15 for a number of years now. I bought it as a carry gun, but it got replaced by my 640-1 when I got it.

No fault of the 60-15 though. I still use it when hiking in the woods. I keep it loaded with some 158 grain .357's with a pointed tip that my father-in-law reloaded and gave me.

If you buy one, keep an eye on all the screws as they have a tendency to loosen while shooting, especially the one holding the rear sight assembly on and the cylinder release.

Very accurate and fun to shoot little gun!
A little 242 Loctite will fix the loose screw problem and still let you make adjustments.
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A little 242 Loctite will fix the loose screw problem and still let you make adjustments.
Thanks. I didn't have any Loctite so I used clear fingernail polish. Worked like a charm. I still check them though.
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I have had both the 60-15 Pro you mentioned and an older full underlug 60-4 in .38 Special. Sold the Pro model and still have the full underlug.

The Pro model had a canted barrel and had to go back for repair. I also didn't care for the light barrel feel, and it wasn't as accurate with any load as the full underlug version.

My general experience with the Pro Series is that they aren't. I've been very happy with the full underlug model, it's more accurate than I am.
I have had the full-lugged model for many years am very happy with it. I like having a little extra weight out front.
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I had one and got rid of it. There was really nothing wrong with it, but I feel adjustable sights are a snag risk on a carry gun, especially a small J-Frame. I prefer the Model 640 and 649 with the 2&1/8th inch barrel.
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I agree!

I own "regular" 60-10's and 60-15's

I also own 640 Pro's, which I do like.

The look of the 60-15 Pro is a major turn off for me, and I have no desire to have one.
Yes, it's a very unattractive Smith. It's the underlug and cr ap finish.
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I really enjoy the Pro- just not the .357’s that came out of it, too much for me! In the in NH woods with lots of black bears �� and more every year. Saying that when I go in the woods I alway pack that revolver, easy to carry in high ride holster. I load it up with “Buffalo Bore” 38 Special +P OUTDOORSMAN - 158 gr. Hard Cast Keith @ 1,250 fps. More than enough for our critters. Accurate and reasonable to shoot.
I practice with standard pressure lead cast semi wad cutters, easy and accurate also. Point of aim at 10 yards was within an inch except the .357 which is my fault. I was all over the target(s)(50 rounds). My hand and wrist could only handle 10 rounds at a session. I know it was me flinching. I’m almost 70 yrs old and have arthritis in my hands and wrists. Great firearm.
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I have one & carry it a lot. Just shot it this morning, along with M19 & 325PD 45. It is NOT hard to shoot 357s. I shot around 50 or 60 38s between the 2 & 1/2 box of fairly hot 357s. It is a 3" steel revolver, weighs about the same as the PD & I can empty it quickly on my steel man, all in the 6" center point shooting at 4 yds with no problem, except it does shoot a little higher than 38s. It is a very good carry gun. Have the 340 (?) little titanium 357 & it is NOT good with 357s & in fact, the cylinder will jump & lock up with hot 357s. "Not" a 357 carry option. Stick with the M60, it works for me.
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I like the grips that come with the 60-15 Pro, but think the barrel is ugly.
The worst thing about it is how dim the trijicon sight is.
At first I thought mine was old or defective, but it was as designed.
So I had it replaced with a fiber optic sight.
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Here is my favorite two J frames! The 60 Pro and the 640 Pro!

The grips were made by Curt Harlow to fit my hand! Proper fitting grips make all the difference when shooting 357s from the J frame platform! The 640 Pro is cut for full moon clips. Both sets appear to be the same configuration but they are not! The 640 has the backstrap exposed but the 60 has the backstrap covered with about 3/16" of wood! This is because of the SA trigger pull length of the mod 60 and most of my shooting with this gun is SA.
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Off topic, but have you swapped the cylinders between them?
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I bought my wife this gun-non Pro version. Her's shoots better than my buddy's wife's pro version. .38 spl. wadcutters or full house .357 Magnum 158 gr. hollow points. Feels good in the hand.



Shoots better (more accurate) than my Combat Masterpiece with undersize cylinder throats that make the bullets undersize for the bore.
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I bought my wife this gun-non Pro version. Her's shoots better than my buddy's wife's pro version. .38 spl. wadcutters or full house .357 Magnum 158 gr. hollow points. Feels good in the hand.

Shoots better (more accurate) than my Combat Masterpiece with undersize cylinder throats that make the bullets undersize for the bore.
Shoots better and looks better. You have good taste by not getting the Pro version
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I have the earlier version of this revolver that's chambered .38 Special +P. It's one of my favorite J frames; tack-driving accurate. I've got a thing for 3" barreled J frames and it scratches the itch.

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I’ve ta 60 Pro I bought new many years ago. First one I saw and fell for it. Been carried a LOT of miles (not cc-open carry when out in the woods or trails. But Hogue monogrip on mine, Not as pretty but a LOT better when using magnums. I shoot a fair number of specials and it’s a *****cat. With magnums it’s a handful, but still shootable and quite accurate. Great little woods gun.
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I had a 3" 60-15 Pro for several years. I liked it a lot, good shooter with my 148 gr HBWC and BBWC handloads, and factory 158 gr SWC. 357 was a handfull of bark and twist, and I never fired more than the first five to "just see". It was alloy and stainless, but got shot less and less as I increased my collection with heavier all-steel J's. I sold it a few weeks ago to a happy co-worker who was looking for a new small carry revolver.
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I have ZERO(0) desire to ever own/shoot a j frame 357. Much better guns for that.........Love my 60-4 in 38 spl..
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I carry Buffalo Bore wadcutters in the cylinder and flat nose 38+P in speedloaders for reloads. The old NYPD stakeout squad was not wrong.
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