Lipseys 432UC , Going back :(

Mountain Man · Apr 2, 2024

Well, after months of wait, I picked up my brand new 432uc last week from my dealer. I drive to the range today, and figured I'd get some practice in.

Loaded it up with 6 rounds of magtech 32 S&W long sjhp, pulled trigger 6 times, no bang. Tried again through the whole cylinder, and 2 went off. I switched to 32 H&R Federal 85 grain personal defence jhp, same issues, same with Hornady critical defence 32 H&R

I pulled the trigger likly 40 times to get a dozen to ignite. Revolver guy next to me looked at it, says firing pin barely sticking out. Attaching a picture to show how barely any mark from the firing pin.

So now to send it back.

Green Frog · Apr 2, 2024

That’s sad. There’s no way a brand new gun should be like that. Don’t they test fire them at the factory any more?
Froggie

SmithNut · Apr 2, 2024

Green Frog said:
....snip.... Don’t they test fire them at the factory any more?
Froggie

They used to shoot a full cylinder through before shipment but maybe they see the price of ammo these days so no shooting test....?????

Well Armed · Apr 2, 2024

Mountain Man said:
Well, after months of wait, I picked up my brand new 432uc last week from my dealer. I drive to the range today, and figured I'd get some practice in.

Loaded it up with 6 rounds of magtech 32 S&W long sjhp, pulled trigger 6 times, no bang. Tried again through the whole cylinder, and 2 went off. I switched to 32 H&R Federal 85 grain personal defence jhp, same issues, same with Hornady critical defence 32 H&R I pulled the trigger likly 40 times to get a dozen to ignite. Revolver guy next to me looked at it, says firing pin barely sticking out. Attaching a picture to show how barely any mark from the firing pin.

So now to send it back.

You get what you pay for.

<sarcasm>

It's about getting units out and profit over all. Shareholders need to make more money and management needs their bonuses and promotions at our expense.

ladder13 · Apr 2, 2024

Not surprised nowadays unfortunately.

CH4 · Apr 2, 2024

Sad news indeed. Hopefully they get you fixed up quickly

Diablo982 · Apr 2, 2024

Could you imagine the non-serious shooter who brought that as a nightstand gun. First time to fire it in the moment of truth and nothing but a “click”.

swagmeister · Apr 2, 2024

Sadly another case of non existent quality control and shoddy workmanship. Seems to be the norm these days. Get them out as fast as you can to make as much profit as you can. Good luck.

.455_Hunter · Apr 2, 2024

The user is the QA/QC for modern S&W.

Mountain Man · Apr 2, 2024

Diablo982 said:
Could you imagine the non-serious shooter who brought that as a nightstand gun. First time to fire it in the moment of truth and nothing but a “click”.

Exactly. And we all know many people buy firearms and never shoot them.

I had a waranty with a Sig one time. But this takes the cake for being completely unusable.

Chuck24 · Apr 2, 2024

When gun companies are no longer owned and managed by gun people

Mountain Man · Apr 3, 2024

Called this morning, received the shipping label, dropped off at Fedex.com terminal, might be back at S&W by Thursday.

Will keep everybody posted on progress.

Boogsawaste · Apr 3, 2024

I wonder how that even happens? Possibly a broken firing pin spring or something stuck in the channel? Personally I pull the side plates off of all of my revolvers, whether new or used, to inspect, clean, and lube. I have found metal shavings in some brand new s&w’s. We shouldn’t have to do that but it’s just habit to me anymore. I hope your gun comes back flawless for you.

murphydog · Apr 3, 2024

SmithNut said:
They used to shoot a full cylinder through before shipment but maybe they see the price of ammo these days so no shooting test....?????

It used to (and still may) be test firing with every other chamber. Still, sending out a non-functioning gun is bad.

Moon · Apr 3, 2024

Just had the same issue with a brand new M648.
I had to shim the strain screw and replace the firing pin with an extended firing pin.
I'd try the strain screw first.

murphydog · Apr 3, 2024

Moon said:
Just had the same issue with a brand new M648.
I had to shim the strain screw and replace the firing pin with an extended firing pin.
I'd try the strain screw first.

Sadly the 432 is a J frame with a coil mainspring, no strain screw

.

Marshal Tom · Apr 3, 2024

I received mine a couple of days ago but have not received my ammo for it yet. I think it will be here today. As soon as I get it, I will take it out and shoot it. Hopefully it will go bang. Mine does not have the dead front sight that has been reported by others. My friend got one the same day I did. We shot his and it seemed OK.

Mountain Man · Apr 5, 2024

So the package arrived at S&W. So the clock starts today. Fingers crossed I get it back before the end of April.

Old cop · Apr 5, 2024

The lesson I learned the hard way is to wait for a new product to age a bit. Some have issues from being rushed to market chasing the almighty profit dollar.

Mountain Man · Apr 5, 2024

Old cop said:
The lesson I learned the hard way is to wait for a new product to age a bit. Some have issues from being rushed to market chasing the almighty profit dollar.

Other than a trigger job, grips, everything is basically a polished up J frame that's been in production for decades. Smith has made 32 H&R before. I'm hoping just a out of spec part, and or human error.

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