4.25" 69 vs 4" 629 Mountain Gun

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Model 69 Combat Magnum
  • Weight 34.19 oz
  • Width 1.55 in
  • Height 6 in
  • Length 7.8 in
  • Capacity 5-shot
  • Ball-Detent Lock-Up
  • Lower bore axis to grip on L Frame
  • pinned in sights allow for changing to user preference

Model 629 Mountain Gun
  • Weight 39 oz
  • Width 1.71 in
  • Height 5.88 in
  • Length 9.63 in
  • Capacity 6-shot
  • no lock
  • pinned in sights allow for changing to user preference but upgraded from the factory

For the purpose of a packing sidearm in the woods how would you compare these two? To be hunting legal, whatever carried needs a 4" barrel locally so clearly these two would be very good choices. This would be used in the the mountains primarily as a defensive sidearm against whatever happens upon you in the mountains which is carried a lot and shot very little.

The 69 is 5oz lighter, 1.5" shorter, and has the improved ball detent lockup. While it has the internal lock, a delete kit is available and sights could easily be swapped to a brass bead or fiber optic at home. The lower bore axis of the smaller frame will have marginally more linear recoil.

The 629 Mountain Gun has the advantage of another round on board and a few factory upgrades in grips, sights, etc. It looks much nicer but that doesn't necessarily mean it shoots better. More mass will help tame 44mag recoil more but also makes you carry more as a sidearm all day. No stupid internal lock not only looks better but removes unnecessary mechanical complexity which is nice, though I've never had any problems with the lock in function.

I'm excited about the new mountain guns. I have one of each on order. My favorite firearm at the moment happens to be my 69. It just carries like a dream and shoots well. It gets a little zesty with full power magnum loads but shooting 310gr at 1100fps is plenty comfortable for under 100 rounds and will stop most any threat or game animal in the Ozarks
 
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You listed the 69 as a 6-shot gun. 5 shot, right?

Yep. Most assuredly 5.

Of the two, I am actually the most excited for the 686 MG because its physical dimensions and weight are pretty much identical to my 69 but it is a 7-shot .357. I know I am going to really, really enjoy it a lot. As for the 629, to be honest I'm really curious personally if I'll wind up grabbing it over my 69 or not. It's a little more mass but holds an extra round. Then again if capacity is the goal, the 7-shot 357 has an advantage over both for round count and can still be loaded to be pretty formidable but isn't a 44.

44 is my favorite cartridge of the many I have on hand and I can't really explain why but it just seems like for everything I ever need a handgun to do, there is a perfect cartridge sitting in the stash in one of the 44 varieties of loaded ammo.
 
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I carried a 4" M29-2 (a trifle heavier than the 629 Mountain, but otherwise almost identical) while bowhunting for many years, until Smith introduced the M69, and then I switched. Both shoot very well with my chosen handload, a 200gr SWC at around 900fps. My main purpose for carrying was coyote control, and of course simply being armed. I still own both and they are both fine arms, but with my modest-size hands, the L-frame is easier for me to shoot well in double-action.
 
I have a M69 now as my go to gun for woods use.
Also owned the first version of the 29 MG.
Had many problems with mine which S&W couldn't seem to resolve so it went down the road.
The current M69 I own is the most accurate revolver I have ever owned.
Carries well and very shootable once I found proper grips for my hand.
 
Do you need 5 shots or will a 6th shot be needed? Personally, I'd rather have a sixth round because you never know what might be encountered or what might be needed.
 
I am also excited for the new 629 but this whole “mountain gun” marketing angle is just that: marketing.

If you want a PPP (perfect packin’ pistol) chambered in .44 mag for woods walking, I believe the 5 shot L frame 69 is smith & wessons best idea in the last 20 years.

So sounds to me like you already have what you need.

But I still might buy a that 629.
 
Given your stated ammo choice, the Model 69 could be a viable option. For someone wanting to carry and practice with anything approaching full house .44 magnums, I’d be strongly recommending the Mountsin Gun.
 
Interesting. During the course of an overly-long LE career which included a few gunfights I never ran out of bullets but I never wanted fewer either. And Clint Smith was right when he said, "ability degrades fifty percent in combat," which I would think includes a charging top-tier predator (and hogs). On the other hand, having carried many different handguns during that time, I found I could distinctly notice a weight difference of four ounces over a long shift, and the same would likely be true during a long hike. So, as always, tradeoffs.
 
Yep. Most assuredly 5.

Of the two, I am actually the most excited for the 686 MG because its physical dimensions and weight are pretty much identical to my 69 but it is a 7-shot .357. I know I am going to really, really enjoy it a lot. As for the 629, to be honest I'm really curious personally if I'll wind up grabbing it over my 69 or not. It's a little more mass but holds an extra round. Then again if capacity is the goal, the 7-shot 357 has an advantage over both for round count and can still be loaded to be pretty formidable but isn't a 44.

44 is my favorite cartridge of the many I have on hand and I can't really explain why but it just seems like for everything I ever need a handgun to do, there is a perfect cartridge sitting in the stash in one of the 44 varieties of loaded ammo.

That sums up my feelings perfectly. I look forward to you getting the 629 mountain gun and reporting back. I already have the 686 SSR version and it's a great gun so I probably won't get the 686 MG but I'd sure like to. Right now my 2.75" and 4.25" 69's are my favorites.
 
My 44 Mag Journey
Started in the early 70s with a Super Blackhawk. It and several others were stolen. Ins money funded a 8 3/8” M29 which was sent to Larry Kelly – bbl cut to 5”, action job, ported and hard chromed. Had the Kelly M29 until the mid 90s when I traded it for a 629 Mtn Gun (still miss the Kelly M29). The Mtn Gun was traded for 329 which (with two other 329s) was my all day every day carry gun for the better part of a decade. When the first M69s appeared in 2014, the 329 was retired and the 4 ¼” M69 became my primary. The 2.75” M69 was introduced in 2017 and has since become my favorite. Have had (still have some) various M29s, M329s, M629s, Super Blackhawks, Redhawks, Super Redhawks and 50th Anniv Flattop. At this stage in my life, the short M69 has become my goto .44 Mag.
I’ve had 4 N Frame Mtn Guns – two 45 Colts, and two .44 Mags (one had an action job by Bob Munden )– the M69s are still here and the Mtn Guns aren’t. To me, felt recoil of M69s (both 4 ¼” and 2.75” ) is less snappy vs the Mtn Gun. The L Frame just works better for me vs. the N Frame.
I’m in my mid 70s now and don’t get out in the out back as often as I once did. When I do, the 2.75” M69 drops comfortably in the back pocket of my Carharts and rides there unobtrusively.
All of these choices involve trade offs and evolve over time – who knows what next year will bring.
Thank goodness we all have different preferences – it has allowed for the development of some great firearms.
Paul
 
I’ve been eyeing the snubby 69, but being a 44Sp kinda guy it’s hard to justify the extra pound over a Charter Arms!
 
I've owned 29s and 629s, and handled the Model 69. Nice gun, very light, powerful, etc., I get it. But were I in the market, the new no-lock Mountain Gun would be my choice. A 39 oz. .44 Magnum would be plenty light enough for me;)
 
You mentioned both hunting and defensive capabilities. To me they are vastly different. For hunting with a 44 Magnum I want a scoped 14" contender or a Blackhawk longer than 6". For defensive purposes I like the 69 4.2". I like it enough that I no longer have any other 44 mag revolvers.

Like steelslaver said, what is 6 going to give you if you couldn't stop it in 5? A reload shouldn't take too long.
 
I had a 629-2 Mountain Gun and traded it even-up for a 4.25" Model 69. People told me I was crazy but I haven't ever regretted that decision. The L frame is a joy to carry and is extremely accurate. It was my primary woods walking gun until late last year. I still have it but it has largely been regulated to range use as I now carry a Springfield Armory XDM Elite 10mm whenever I'm in the outdoors. I have a light on it for night use and simply feel better with the 3X firepower without ever having to reload. Good luck with whichever you decide to carry.
 
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