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Old 03-03-2025, 11:41 PM
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Anyone put hands on Lipsey's re-intorduced Mountain Guns? Makes me wish I'd kept my original 686 MG. Kick myself for letting it go.
Anyway, if you've seen one I'd like to get your impression. I think I'm going to start saving up for the 686.
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Old 03-04-2025, 08:08 AM
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I've been repeatedly checking if any vendors have them, and while they are listed, they're still out of stock. I'm hoping they come out later this month.
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Old 03-04-2025, 09:24 AM
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I ordered one (686MG) weeks ago when first announced. Still nuffin.
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Old 03-04-2025, 10:14 AM
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I saw a video from the shot show in January where the Lipsey's guy said they were available "now". Then I heard they were shipping the first week of February. Then I heard they were shipping in March. I am beginning to believe they don't exist.
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Old 03-04-2025, 10:21 AM
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Old 03-04-2025, 11:03 AM
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That's a nice one. I liked my 629 MG more but should have kept both. Oh well.
I'll keep waiting.
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Old 03-04-2025, 11:43 AM
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I am one of the masses who fondled them at SHOT. Nice looking grips and no lock. Glad I still have my original 629 Mountain Revolver, 625-6 MG in .45 Colt.
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I'm on the lookout as well, want a 357 & 45 Colt


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Well, earlier this evening, I see "someone" finally has one of the 629 Mountain Guns in stock but they want over $2000 for one. No thanks. I'll wait.
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I called Lipseys last week. They said they hadn’t seen them yet. We’re supposed to get 629’s first week of Feb. didn’t happen. This week is their S&W “promo week” where I guess they go over the new products internally. She said it seemed likely they would receive some of the 629’s for that internal function then they would start shipping. We shall see.
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I picked up my 629 today.

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I picked up my 629 today.

Thank you for posting this. I’ll be pestering my lgs tomorrow….politely of course.
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I picked up my 629 today.

How did you procure it?

So far the only place I've seen it available is one on Gunbroker and it's listed at $1400: Just a moment...
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I gave up and bought a Colt Grizzly
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Good luck to all trying to get one of the new build MG's.
I was lucky to find them all but the 617 years ago.

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So far the only place I've seen it available is one on Gunbroker and it's listed at $1400: Just a moment...
My dealer has a great relationship with their rep and called and got one allocated before they could be allocated through the website portal. Other dealers still can’t get them through the site and I guess don’t want to pick up the phone and call their rep. I also paid under MSRP.
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guns.com had one for over $2000. A day later they dropped it to 1531. Still too high.
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I just got back from the range with it and it’s pretty awesome. Nowhere near as snappy as I thought it would be with the lightweight barrel out front. Certainly nothing like my 329PD was, that thing was hateful.

I shot just shy of 100 rounds of various 240gr 44 mag loads (Magtech FMJ, Federal hydra shock, Sierra JHP, Norma JHP, Hornady XTP and Winchester) plus 40-50 round of 44 special which feels about the same as shooting standard pressure 38 special out of my 686 and my hands don’t hurt at all. There was some slight discomfort while shooting in the web of my hand but no more than I get from shooting 357 out of my 686 with hogues.

I'm going to say that Skeeter Skelton grip design with palm swells works as advertised because I have zero pain from hot spots after the fact.

I stopped at a gun store after the range to pick up some oil and have the first coat drying now. It really pulled out a lot more figure and I’m sure will take several coats.

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They can kick rocks, they absolutely price gouge on so much stuff and fluctuate their prices constantly based on supply. I get not giving away something for a few bucks over cost when you’re the only person that has it, but charging nearly double MSRP for something in production is wrong. I won’t buy from them even when they have the best price just out of principle of not supporting a company like that.
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Good choice! Far more robust than the N frame and easy on the eyes.
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I just got back from the range with it and it’s pretty awesome. Nowhere near as snappy as I thought it would be with the lightweight barrel out front. Certainly nothing like my 329PD was, that thing was hateful.

I shot just shy of 100 rounds of various 240gr 44 mag loads (Magtech FMJ, Federal hydra shock, Sierra JHP, Norma JHP, Hornady XTP and Winchester) plus 40-50 round of 44 special which feels about the same as shooting standard pressure 38 special out of my 686 and my hands don’t hurt at all. There was some slight discomfort while shooting in the web of my hand but no more than I get from shooting 357 out of my 686 with hogues.

I'm going to say that Skeeter Skelton grip design with palm swells works as advertised because I have zero pain from hot spots after the fact.

I stopped at a gun store after the range to pick up some oil and have the first coat drying now. It really pulled out a lot more figure and I’m sure will take several coats.



They can kick rocks, they absolutely price gouge on so much stuff and fluctuate their prices constantly based on supply. I get not giving away something for a few bucks over cost when you’re the only person that has it, but charging nearly double MSRP for something in production is wrong. I won’t buy from them even when they have the best price just out of principle of not supporting a company like that.
Thanks for the review. I can't wait to see one of these in person. Also, thanks for the info on guns.com. I didn't know. I have never bought from them and now I'm glad I didn't.
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I just got back from the range with it and it’s pretty awesome. Nowhere near as snappy as I thought it would be with the lightweight barrel out front. Certainly nothing like my 329PD was, that thing was hateful.

I shot just shy of 100 rounds of various 240gr 44 mag loads (Magtech FMJ, Federal hydra shock, Sierra JHP, Norma JHP, Hornady XTP and Winchester) plus 40-50 round of 44 special which feels about the same as shooting standard pressure 38 special out of my 686 and my hands don’t hurt at all. There was some slight discomfort while shooting in the web of my hand but no more than I get from shooting 357 out of my 686 with hogues.

I'm going to say that Skeeter Skelton grip design with palm swells works as advertised because I have zero pain from hot spots after the fact.

I stopped at a gun store after the range to pick up some oil and have the first coat drying now. It really pulled out a lot more figure and I’m sure will take several coats.



They can kick rocks, they absolutely price gouge on so much stuff and fluctuate their prices constantly based on supply. I get not giving away something for a few bucks over cost when you’re the only person that has it, but charging nearly double MSRP for something in production is wrong. I won’t buy from them even when they have the best price just out of principle of not supporting a company like that.
That's great info, thanks.

How is the fit and finish? Is barrel on straight? Is trigger nice and smooth?
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That's great info, thanks.

How is the fit and finish? Is barrel on straight? Is trigger nice and smooth?
Fit and finish and trigger are excellent. Can’t say I’ve ever seen a smith with a barrel that wasn’t straight. Out of the box with the rear sight centered and all the way down POI was less than 1” left and 2” low at 10 yards so really didn’t need much adjustment.
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Fit and finish and trigger are excellent. Can’t say I’ve ever seen a smith with a barrel that wasn’t straight. Out of the box with the rear sight centered and all the way down POI was less than 1” left and 2” low at 10 yards so really didn’t need much adjustment.
That's good to hear, thanks.
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This is very positive news!

Until this thread I did not know about the 617 MG - that is beyond cool. An aluminum frame version with no lock would be cooler!

Jason Cloessner is one of us, he knows exactly what we want. Smith and Wesson should pay him 1 million a year to make the new guns look and function how we want.

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They can kick rocks, they absolutely price gouge on so much stuff and fluctuate their prices constantly based on supply. I get not giving away something for a few bucks over cost when you’re the only person that has it, but charging nearly double MSRP for something in production is wrong. I won’t buy from them even when they have the best price just out of principle of not supporting a company like that.
The reason for that is that guns.com isn't a single seller. In addition to guns.com itself selling guns, it's also hundreds, if not thousands, of sellers using a platform, much like Amazon.

That's not to say that guns.com doesn't directly benefit from mark-ups via fees, but the seller marking things up may not be the same seller discounting things.
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Are the internals much like the original N frames or something more updated?
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The reason for that is that guns.com isn't a single seller. In addition to guns.com itself selling guns, it's also hundreds, if not thousands, of sellers using a platform, much like Amazon.

That's not to say that guns.com doesn't directly benefit from mark-ups via fees, but the seller marking things up may not be the same seller discounting things.
I don’t know their ins and outs of business, all I see is their prices and see that they’re sheisters.

Here’s a perfect example here:

Smith 629 and 686 Mountain Guns with no lock - new production! - Page 2 - AR15.COM

Read the most recent post today. Dude ordered a mountain gun at advertised price, they cancelled his order saying it’s out of stock but after he ordered they increased the price and still available at that price. **** that company.
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The Lipsey’s MGs have sights that are too straight up for proper holster work. I know they are pinned on, but it is still a job to change them.
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Here’s a perfect example here:

Smith 629 and 686 Mountain Guns with no lock - new production! - Page 2 - AR15.COM

Read the most recent post today. Dude ordered a mountain gun at advertised price, they cancelled his order saying it’s out of stock but after he ordered they increased the price and still available at that price. **** that company.
Whether it's guns dot com doing it, or one of the FFLs selling on the site, it reflects poorly on guns dot com. CDNN pulled some similar BS back during the second Obama election panic buying period to an FFL that I knew.

I don't blame anyone for swearing off guns dot com, and it certainly wouldn't be my first choice of retailer.

That being said, a lot of people feel the same way about Amazon these days due to the legions of Chinese junk products from random fly-by-night sellers.
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I was lucky to find them all but the 617 years ago.

Which of those do you find to be the best balanced cartridge for the Mountain Gun and why? I’m not necessarily asking what’s the best cartridge all together but more like which one is best suited to a Mountain Gun platform in your opinion as compared to other configurations
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Which of those do you find to be the best balanced cartridge for the Mountain Gun and why? I’m not necessarily asking what’s the best cartridge all together but more like which one is best suited to a Mountain Gun platform in your opinion as compared to other configurations
This is very much dependent upon your needs and personal preferences.

-If you want one for opportunistic varminting on your property, a 617 may meet your needs.

-If angry grizzlies or moose are a possibility in your area, you may want a .44 Magnum or 41 Magnum. These days, you probably want .44 Magnum instead of .41 Magnum if you're not a handloader.

-.45 Colt might be a winner if you want to chuck heavy bullets capable of deep penetration at less wrist-abusive pressures than the .41/.44 Magnums.

-357 Magnum or .45 ACP with the right round may be perfectly fine East of the Mississippi besides maybe northern Maine and Minnesota, and you can practice with relatively inexpensive factory ammo.
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Are these square butt N frames or round butt K frames?
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If you are referring to the new 629 Mountain Gun: neither.

N-frame, round-butt.
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The Lipsey’s MGs have sights that are too straight up for proper holster work. I know they are pinned on, but it is still a job to change them.
That is something I haven't seen brought up for this gun.

What kind of front sights would you recommend for the Mountain Gun?
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Do the Lipsey 629 Mountain Guns have predrilled holes in the top strap for mounting a scope?
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Perfect opportunity to use the "DX" front sight - opportunity lost - what a shame - sorry, one of my pet peeves.
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Is the 629 the same as a pre lock mim gun (629-5) with different sights and grips?
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