Froglube

I'm thinking of trying Mobil One - would 20W50 do?

Never tried the Frog Lube, and won't waste my money based on some of the reports I've read here; however, I can totally endorse MPro7. It does a great job, and removes burnt powder and lead residue on the cylinder face better than any other liquid cleaning product I've ever used. Their copper remover is also very effective, and nearly odorless compared to some of the ones that use ammonia. I use it in all my long guns.

I've been using frog lube for a little less than a year. I've fired maybe 1500-2000 rounds through those guns since using. I have one gun, a M&P15-22 which is picky on ammo. I can shoot the crappiest 22lr through it now and have never had one fail to feed. Not one. I had one or two every magazine before using.

It cleans up so much quicker since I don't run my guns wet. little of no powder sticks. I love it.

I saw an ar15 running frog lube. Something like 300-500 shots in a row rapid fire. No fail to feeds. They actually dunked it in a creek afterwards. I would never do that I would assume quenching a gun might be a bad thing at a molecular level, I could be wrong.

I'm a fan.

I love the stuff on my handguns for the reason it makes them much easier to clean. Carbon wipes right off and I spend less time cleaning and don't worry about how much I shoot.

You have to put it on warm for the best effect, but it works if you don't. I don't leave gobs around but I've never had a freezing problem with it.

I, too, have a chemical locker, always looking for the best. For everyday handgun lubrication, I've settled on the Frog. I use EEZOX for things when I'm going to be sub-zero (rifle), and I use Bore-tech eliminator for bore cleaning at the range between load development runs.

I ordered some today on my lunch hour. I've read enough positive feedback on its performance as a lube. Combine that with odorless/fumeless/gloves-less cleaning, it was time to switch.

hdfinder47 said:

I'm thinking of trying Mobil One - would 20W50 do?

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Don't know why it wouldn't. I use 10w-30, but that is just because that's what goes in my vehicles.
Some folks use 5w-30. If 20w-50 was what I had that is what I would use. Whatever, I cut it with synthetic ATF. 3 parts oil to 1 part ATF.

Most oils I've used work fine, but I only use Motorkote for my lubing purposes & the TP-25 grease that comes with my Sigs for my AR bolt & Sig rails.

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Nooby here, but I use it on my FS M&P, applied once per instructions to initially treat (borrow hair dryer with permission from Mrs., strip, heat parts one by one, apply paste with toothbrush, let sit for a couple minute, wipe clean, reassemble).

I opted not to use the solvent, just started with paste and the CLP.

So far seems ok, pistol (and me) both pretty new, so my experience base is near zero. I would not dream of commenting on other products; ya'll have forgotten more about firearms than I'll ever know.

I like the fact it was developed by a serviceman (SEAL I think) in the USA, is non-toxic, smells ok, appears very effective for cleaning / lubricating / protecting, doesn't leave any residue, leaves a nice non-shiny matte finish, is safe on plastic and metal, does not require gloves, is non oily/greasy, and does not seem to attract dirt. Lastly, it may be me, but it does feel like when I clean after a range session, there is not much accumulated powder. I run a boresnake through the barrel then a couple wet/dry patches, plus a general wipe out of the slide etc. That is about it.

One suggestion: buy as small a size (in oz) as possible; I think if I could have gotten a gun show sample (1 oz?) that would be fine for a hand gun. I have a 4 oz bottle of CLP AND a tub of paste, and I've got plenty. As some have noted, the stuff is not cheap.

If there is anyone in the Tampa area wants to try some (free) I'm either at Shooter's World or Bill Jackson's Outdoor World. Shoot me a PM, be happy to let you borrow/have a teaspoon of each in a couple lunch baggies.

My 0.02.

Rich

I use it to clean my pistols but I completely remove it before reassembly, I store clean firearms wrapped in a silicone-treated cloth in a temperature/humidity-controlled safe after lightly oiling them. 35+ years / no problems.


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I use it - works great!

It doesn't work well for me in cold, which is a quarter of the year.
Not practical. Smells nice, but I won't be needing any more.

For the guys that mention it not working in the cold, are you leaving it wet? I leave such a small amount on my guns that even if frozen I can't imagine it would not work perfectly. I never leave a wet layer on any gun, even my AR bolt. All oils thicken in ice cold temps. I don't see how F.L. would be any different than other products in the cold.

I know many, many people than never fully read instructions. I used to be that way. If you follow their directions, I think you'll find you have the slickest action you've ever experienced. It's snowing right now I might lube one up and set it outside for about 30 minutes.

Some people are slow adapters and simply won't change because the other lubes they have used work fine. Not every lube is superior just because it's been around since the dawn of dinosaurs. I'd suggest everyone try it for themselves. I love it.

Directions for Use | FrogLube

FrogLube & Cold Weather | FrogLube

bassoneer said:

I use it - works great!

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I've stopped using it and threw it away. Caused several firearms to seize up and took a while to clean/repair. I've gone back to Hoppes. Best wishes, B

I have been using it for a few years now with absolutely no problems, and with a wide variety of weapons. If you follow the instructions and remember to keep the striker channel, firing components, trigger components dry and free of it. It won't gum up if you make sure you don't soak the internals without wiping it all off completely.

It didn't work for me. Fine in warm weather but gets sticky/tacky in the cold. Had a Mossberg 500 stop working during bird season, even the light coat & wipe off on the trigger assembly parts was enough to rob power to the hammer. Stripped all the FrogLube off with either brake cleaner or paint thinner and went with Italian Gun Grease. Although I just may start using 5w30 synthetic motor oil if the price of these lubricants keeps going up...

Its been quite a while since I started this thread and I have been using the Froglube all the while so here's some non-scientific observations. I've used the lube on an AR-15, M&P 45, which is a duty gun, two 1911's and a 38 revolver.

Pros:
When used properly, this stuff is very dry. A great feature for a gun that will be used in dusty environments. I noticed that my day to day duty gun, the M&P, has a lot less accumulated crud on it than when I use Break Free.

It's slippery. Which is good for a lube. You can feel it after you wipe the gun dry. The AR-15 was a gun that I had to run wet for it work consistently. I've fired about 2000 rounds through it since I treated it without a stoppage and all I've done is wipe it down a couple of times. It has run non stop.

It's nice to use a product that doesn't stink up the workshop. I know, everybody loves the Hoppes #9 smell but it just gives me a head ache.

Fouling clean up seems much easier. Carbon fouling on the breach face and feed ramp area just wipes away. The bore can be cleaned with just a clp dampened patch followed by a couple of dry patches.

Cons:
The first application is a little bit of a pain. It requires that the gun be detail stripped and degreased before putting the lube on. I tried the solvent and it did the job but I can't say I'm in love with it. I ended up using isopropyl alcohol which is cheep and works and goes along with the non toxic theme. You need to follow the directions when applying. I think that most of the complaints come from not using the stuff according to the instructions.

It's not cheep. Especially when compared with the used motor oil and recycled transmission fluid homeopathic brews that a lot of people seem to be using. In the end, it amounts to a couple of bucks and if you're that close to the edge then you're in the wrong hobby and gun cleaning is the least of your worries.


All in all, I'm happy with Froglube and will continue to use it. The guns I've used it on have run trouble free even with long periods of use without cleaning. I've had no incidence of guns not functioning because of gumming up but I have been applying it in accordance with the directions.

So, there is my over due, non scientific review of Froglube.

I love it. That's my non-scientific, yet personally enthusiastic, assessment.

cmj8591 said:

All in all, I'm happy with Froglube and will continue to use it. The guns I've used it on have run trouble free even with long periods of use without cleaning. I've had no incidence of guns not functioning because of gumming up but I have been applying it in accordance with the directions.

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This mirrors my experience with FL over the past two years.

According to this admittedly "unscientific" but real world test, Froglube, WD-40 Specialist "Long Term Corrosion Inhibitor", and Hornady "One Shot", are all very good at preventing oxidation. The Froglube was also a decent lubricant. They didn't test cleaning abilities. Froglube has kind of a wintergreen oil smell. Personally, ......I like the classic smell of the banana oil in Hoppes #9 better.

Comprehensive Corrosion Test: 46 Products Compared : Day At The Range

The fellow who did the comprehensive corrosion testing in the armorer951 link above has done a great job in testing and seemed (at least from what I read) to be perfectly unbiassed about the products he tested. I couldn't think of improving much on his methods and this was the second time since it's publishing that I've read this.

A few things that are worth discussing here though........ Upon his results (when I first read this a year ago) I did go out and purchase Hornady's One Shot as it was in the top 5 products tested that I had not tried yet (love testing new products). While the Hornady product seems to work well, its spray can application is not my favorite way of using gun cleaner/preservative/lubricant. They generally spray onto areas that you don't want it on and the product also gets airborne and is much more likely to be inhaled. The warning labels on Hornady's One Shot is pretty scary and it seems that it is not meant to be used indoors where most of us clean our guns - a game stopper for me! It also affects certain paints and other finishes which I am not too happy about. On their website they list a liquid squeeze bottle, however it has been discontinued and their product is only available in small spray cans.

I also have read a bunch of other gun care product reviews online that vastly differ from this fellows results and their testing procedures are viable as well - so who do you go by?

As I have posted innumerable amount of times, for THE VAST MAJORITY OF US HERE who routinely clean and care for our prized possessions, the specific brand of oil we use is more than likely less important because we ARE routinely using something! The guys who usually neglect their guns and rarely clean them - it won't really matter what they use because it's kind of like putting on a condom after having sex!

To me, ANY PRODUCT (for guns or not) that is an all-in-one is somewhat of a compromise! This is because when you try to make an all-in-one product you compromise one attribute for another and they are sometimes counter productive. I've used Rig #2 Oil for 35 years. Admittedly, there ARE (single purpose items) better cleaners, better rust preventatives and better lubricants available and I had to take many factors into consideration upon settling on the Rig #2 Oil product. First off it is available in a can as well as a spray (I like the cans better) and it is very very low on the Materials Safety Hazard list. I clean guns VERY OFTEN and that's important to me! It has a very mild odor (Mrs. Chief38 likes that) and will NOT ruin wood, paint, rubber, plastic, leather, vinyl, clothing, aluminum, or anything else I have gotten it on. It cleans well, lubricates fairly well, and I have NEVER had one spec of rust appear on any gun I own.

NOW, if I have a very specific need for a real heavy duty single purpose product here is what I have found to be the best for that intended purpose.

RUST PREVENTION: Rig Universal Grease - simply the best IMHO!

LUBRICATION: Birchwood-Casey Synthetic Gun Oil in the 4.5 ounce can - my new favorite lubricant.

DEEP CLEANING: Hoppes #9 - but I am still using old stock (at least 20 years old) and it still works incredibly well. Don't know if they took out some of the chem's that made it work so well.

So for better or worse I have plenty of the three products above and will likely just stick with them as they do exactly what I need them to do and don't do what I don't need them to do. Just my .02 cents...........