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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    update: I got this from S&W customer service: It appears they have fit a new barrel to this 1911 The gun should be on its way back to you on Monday Michael
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    I think we can have both. (especially in today's age with modern metallurgy, quality control, good designs, good ammunition, etc.). I expect this 1911 (from a reputable company, costing almost twice of what I paid for my 9mm) to deliver both those goods (accuracy and reliability). I know...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    well, it's off to S&W; I'll report back on what happens. I included about 5 different test targets. All were about 4-6 inches at 25 yards.
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    m29, have you been able to replicate the good groupings yet? (using the white box winchester HPs)
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    excellent idea. I don't have access to a ransom rest though. The best I could manage was find some range officers with more experience shooting than I and have them have a go at it. Results were the same - dismal.
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    Great advice. I'm firm but ever polite. I'm 'comforted' to know that others have had to send their guns in twice or 3x times to finally get a resolution. Do you think I should mention this time that I've already sent this in? On one hand, they may not even test it and just go with last...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    I don't think I answered this one. for the grip, i basically hold it as high as possible. thumb over thumb pointing towards the target. I don't have a 45 factory crimp die. I basically seat the bullet and it crimps there; I don't have a seperate crimper.
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    Smitty, I assume this is non benched 5 inch groups right?
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    thanks, I'll report back on how it goes. I'll say this, Micheal from S&W customer service has been emailing with me for the last 3 days. They do have good customer service and I'm glad the gun has a 'longer than 1 year warranty'.
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    I don't but I buy cast bullets (Missouri Bullet Company). Strange - the box says, ".452 diameter". When I measure them with some calipers, they are .453. Those perform a lot better than the FMJ/TMJs I used before. I'm looking at my groups now. Once I tried the MBC lead, they are all on...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    Thanks Mike. I'll see if there is a barrel I can borrow. But if the S&W return label comes before my next trip to the range, I'm just going to send it in. (I'm pretty frustrated). I may get the technical wording wrong but these are my 2 measurements of that lead ball I slugged through the...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    Thanks Larry. My conundrum is that when I sent this to S&W, they tested it and it 'performed for them'. They returned a 2 inch group at 15 yards. Of course, that's contrary to what Micheal @ S&W says since he said it should have been tested at 25 yards and it still return 3 inches or less...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    Did. I asked a range officer that I always see shoot fancy guns one handed at 25 yards (so I figure he knows what he's doing). He fired maybe 20 rounds worth, 4 groups. one of the groups didn't even have all the rounds on paper. The rest where like mine, about 5-7 inches. He did 1 group...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    yep. i ordered one. it's sitting in my garage's work bench. I was going to fit it yesterday but after looking at the factory bushing, it's fine. I'm starting to think it's more than the bushing. I really think it's the barrel. Remember, I slugged it and it came out to .452. FMJs are...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    thank for the replies guys. I got an email back from S&W. When I asked about their testing and accuracy standards, I got this: We run one magazine through the gun at 25 yards groups within three inches Ammo Federal 230 Grain Hydra-Shok Michael Only 1 group at one time broke 3 inches at...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    thanks for the comments. First, I'm feeling better as hopefully my expectations adjusts. So, factory 1911s accuracy at 25 yards benched with factory ammo is right around 5 inches and hand loads can cut that in half (as I'm seeing)? Anything better than that are either custom or really lucky?
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    Thank you Denise. yep. that's exact the gun. It's a beauty and I love how it feels. It's been 100% reliable and feeds everything, I'm just discontent with the accuracy. (especially when I can best it with my beat up sig p228 or my hunting carry gun, the 686, for almost twice the price of...
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    Smith & Wesson. 1911. 45ACP. Accuracy questions. SOLVED!

    I'm a new owner of a smith & wesson 1911 (not the e-model). It's a full size in 45ACP. I'll admit that I'm disappointed. I've shot S&W revolvers and their M&P and can get fairly tight groups. (it's not hard to get 2-3 inch groups with factory ammo out of a 686 in 357 for example (25 yards...
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