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Old 07-21-2011, 10:28 PM
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I am gearing up to shoot IDPA SSR. I already have a Ready Tac holster. I am looking at Speedloader holders.

Is the Safariland OK? SPEEDLOADER HOLDER - Brownells

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Old 07-21-2011, 10:48 PM
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The Safariland speedloader carrier you mention is not IDPA legal. Ready Tac sells some perfectly good loaders for SSR. Remember that you'll need 3. Be sure to spec them for the belt width of your same holster.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:34 AM
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For IDPA I use the North Mountian speed loader holder from 4wheelguns. 4wheelguns.com - NM - IDPA Compliant Speed Loader Holder

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Old 07-22-2011, 08:25 AM
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Been using the standard HKS speedloaders in the HKS/Safariland pouch for some time. Legal, easily obtained anywhere and legal.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:05 PM
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Thanks guys.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:50 AM
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The Ready Tactical holders are good. The North Mountain holder is much better. I only bought 2 because I don't carry 3 loaders on my belt. I load with one from my pocket and use the other two. There is no requirement to carry three and unless there is a multi-string stage with a reload in bewteen off the clock, no stage will require more than 18 rounds.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:50 PM
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I also like the North Mountain holders better .I have the North Mountain and the Ready Tactical. The Ready Tac holders are good but its easy to knock your speed loader out while moving or while prone which costs you a procedural If your not loading.Even if your loading you have to pick it back up. { guess how I know}
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:26 PM
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The Ready Tactical holders are good. The North Mountain holder is much better. I only bought 2 because I don't carry 3 loaders on my belt. I load with one from my pocket and use the other two. There is no requirement to carry three and unless there is a multi-string stage with a reload in bewteen off the clock, no stage will require more than 18 rounds.
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I also like the North Mountain holders better .I have the North Mountain and the Ready Tactical. The Ready Tac holders are good but its easy to knock your speed loader out while moving or while prone which costs you a procedural If your not loading.Even if your loading you have to pick it back up. { guess how I know}
Thanks guys. I have ordered some Comp III's today from Midway(on sale for $13.49 till end of month).
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:35 AM
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What about this one? Double Speed Loader pouch :: Revolver Pouches :: Blade-Tech Industries
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:51 AM
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These are the ones I use in front of and next to the holster. I use a single off side for the third speedloader. I know that no string requires more than 18 rounds but I like a little insurance. Jim.
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Old 07-26-2011, 07:29 PM
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I use the Ready tactical ones and they work well but the North Mountain ones were not available when I bought mine. I might buy them if I was starting over.

A high primer, a piece of grit or powder under the wheel and I have had to dump a cylinder full on the ground and go to that third speedloader more than once.

Also with a lot of 18 round stages with movers and steel, I like insurance also.
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Old 07-26-2011, 08:01 PM
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I recently used a couple of Don Hume Pack Six pouches. Of course they won't close with Comp IIIs but why would you want to? They do hold them securely. I assume they'd be legal.
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I recently used a couple of Don Hume Pack Six pouches. Of course they won't close with Comp IIIs but why would you want to? They do hold them securely. I assume they'd be legal.
In IDPA a speedloader holder, mag pouch or holster that has a flap or retention strap it has to be fastened / snapped or whatever at the buzzer.

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Old 07-26-2011, 08:57 PM
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I use the Ready tactical ones and they work well but the North Mountain ones were not available when I bought mine. I might buy them if I was starting over.

A high primer, a piece of grit or powder under the wheel and I have had to dump a cylinder full on the ground and go to that third speedloader more than once.

Also with a lot of 18 round stages with movers and steel, I like insurance also.
Makes since to me. I have purshased 4 CompIII's while they are on sale at Midway. I plan on having three on my belt.
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If I had to dump a cylinder full of rounds I might consider carrying 3 speedloaders. So far, I have had few situations where I would have needed a third and in more than one case the penalty was smaller than a third reload would have cost. If your reload is very fast though it may help. Mine isn't, yet.

I also shoot quite often from a vehicle or chair and have had the loader behind the holster dislodge, earning a procedural. I am not sure whether I can wear 3 for most stages in a match and only 2 when I decide it's best. This becomes less of a problem now that the third (or even all) loaders can be carried behind the center line on the weak side. Also, this is far less likely using the North Mountain design.
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:54 PM
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So far, I have had few situations where I would have needed a third and in more than one case the penalty was smaller than a third reload would have cost.
That should have earned you a FTDR at minimum.

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I am not sure whether I can wear 3 for most stages in a match and only 2 when I decide it's best.
Wear 3 holders. Only want 2 speedloaders on your belt? Use the 3rd for "Make Ready".
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Some shooters will run 2 on their belt and a third in their vest pocket for those times that a reload with retention is necessary. For the RWR you can eject the mess into your hand and insert your hand into your pocket and come out with a fresh loader in your hand. It works out well.
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Note "Proper Retention" in the IDPA RUles Glossary: The use of specially designed pockets, shirt pockets, upper vest pockets, ...is not permitted.

Use of the lower (side) vest pockets is permitted. I do that at times, myself, but it is posible to knock the loader out of a shallow strong-side vest pocket when drawing (oops).

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That should have earned you a FTDR at minimum.

Agree! (IDPA rules, pg 15, para D.3.)
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Note "Proper Retention" in the IDPA RUles Glossary: The use of specially designed pockets, shirt pockets, upper vest pockets, ...is not permitted.

Use of the lower (side) vest pockets is permitted. I do that at times, myself, but it is posible to knock the loader out of a shallow strong-side vest pocket when drawing (oops).

Agree! (IDPA rules, pg 15, para D.3.)
I've read it. I am talking about having loaded from a speedloader in my pocket and starting a stage with 3 loaders on the belt. There is no rule that says I have to be wearing more than 2 (all the ammunition carrier rules use the word "may" not "must" anyway) so if no single string is more than 18 rounds and that's what I start the stage with and I don't have a "4th" loader (counting the one in my pocket) to load from should "something happen" I don't see how I could be charged with an FTDR. Rare, perhaps, but not unheard of.
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Note "Proper Retention" in the IDPA RUles Glossary: The use of specially designed pockets, shirt pockets, upper vest pockets, ...is not permitted.

Use of the lower (side) vest pockets is permitted. I do that at times, myself, but it is posible to knock the loader out of a shallow strong-side vest pocket when drawing (oops).

Agree! (IDPA rules, pg 15, para D.3.)
Just remember that you can not carry a loader for use during the stage in your lower vest pocket "at times" unless "at times" is for the entire match. The new addendum to the rulebook forbids changing where you carry in the middle of the match.

3. Competitors may mix carry methods (one in a pocket
and one on the belt) but they must use the same method
of carry for the entire match. Changing their carry
method to fit the CoF will result in a FTDR.
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So far, I have had few situations where I would have needed a third and in more than one case the penalty was smaller than a third reload would have cost.
If you have not fired the required minimum number of shots for the CoF and choose to stop rather than reload, this calls for the FTDR penalty, and is a specific example in the rules. On the other hand, if having engaged all targets with the required number of rounds rounds and simply missed, there is no FTDR required.

This and the "round dumping" FTDRs require a lot of effort by the SO, and are not always called when needed.

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So you either carry all your speed loaders on your belt for the entire match or the extra one in your bottom vest pocket what do you do when you decide to use your vest pocket and then come to a stage where concealment isn't required? do you still have to wear your vest or can you opt not to carry the extra loader at any time during the match? I understand the rule but I have questions
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This post got me off the fence. I had been trying to decide which speed loader pouches to order.
I just ordered a couple Belt Mountain IDPA compliant ones for my K Frame Comp III loaders.

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