Daniel Cox
Well-known member
I just got my Primary Arms Multi-Reticle 30mm Red Dot Sight PAM3M and Cantilever mount.
It was packaged very well and shipped quickly from Primary Arms in Texas. The red dot felt like a well made piece and had a nice weight. The cantilever mount felt well made too.
I mounted the cantilever on the forward position of the rail. I suggest being careful when attaching to the rail, do not over tighten. You will either strip the bolt or damage part of you rail. The mount felt of very good quality but the bolt you tighten does not seem to be as well make as I would like. The mount went on fine on my mp 15-22 rail. The nut tighten fine but I could feel where you could strip it or screw your rail up. Let me make it clear that this mount cost $10 and does exactly what I need it to do. Remember I am writing a review and want to give the truth and not drink any Primary Arms cool aid. For $10 it is a super value. It would be nice to have a high quality cantilever mount but I would then pay as much or more for a mount as I did my red dot. Maybe someone can rig up a QD for this mount. I think this could be done fairly easily if you knew where to get what you need to modify it. Note: READ the instuctions on how to tighten the mount to the rail before installing on your rail.
Next I mounted the red dot and that all went fine. It had 6 torx for the mount. So if you order you need a set of small torx screw drivers. I tighten them in small increments on each side to make the red dot tighten evenly across the mount. The red dot felt very solid in the mount once it was tighten. I suggest you remove the cover for the battery capsule, it gives you more room to tighten one of the torx bolts.
My setup with the 30mm Red Dot is lower 1/3 co-witness with the stock mp 15-22 sights. They were not the magpul sights. The standard front sight is super nice IMO. The rear sight is fine too. I can say I do like the lower 1/3 co-witness. My sights are dead on at 25 yards so I adjusted my red dot w/ the red dot reticle to match my sights. I am not sure this will hold true but it should. If it does not then it gives me more time at the range
. My impressions of the 2 moa red dot reticle are excellent. I also flipped between the other reticles and they are also nice and clear and crisp. The brightness levels are easy adjusted via the knob. I must give all of this an excellent. It has many brightness levels that would fit all my needs when shooting. All the caps/knobs are easily removeable. The battery is a CR2. You can find these batteries for cheap on the Internet. I will put a spare in my magpul plus grip with a little cloth to keep it from rattling. The lense caps seem fine. I am sure you could get better ones but these seem to provide the function I need. No complaints about the flip up lens caps.
I feel this red dot is a perfect match for my mp 15-22 if it will hold up at the range and keep zero. After I get some mileage on this red dot and feel it is a solid product I will get one for my Double Star AR-15. I will say I do have a UTG Red Dot and this is a far superior product. It is not even a contast IMO.
I will say many people have said when you change the reticle that zero will not be the same for each. I can say I did flip between each reticle and co-witness through my stock sights and they appeared to be in the same place. I would like to purchase a troy rear folding sight but $119 is a lot. I like the troy because it has 2 different size peepholes. I think this would be a good combo with the Primary Arms 30mm tube red dot.
I will give another final review once I take it to the range. I really do not anticipate any issues with holding zero and feel if you are looking for a red dot for your mp 15-22 I think this fits the mold perfectly. I can only assume the micro dot that primary arms sells is of the same quality. I do know the micro dot is never in stock so it must be a quality product. I will also say if you are not going to use the other reticles on the Primary arms then get the 30mm 3 moa red dot. I assume it is just like the multi-reticle but with a slightly larger dot. I think it will save you some cash for other upgrades and perform as well as the multi-reticle.
It was packaged very well and shipped quickly from Primary Arms in Texas. The red dot felt like a well made piece and had a nice weight. The cantilever mount felt well made too.
I mounted the cantilever on the forward position of the rail. I suggest being careful when attaching to the rail, do not over tighten. You will either strip the bolt or damage part of you rail. The mount felt of very good quality but the bolt you tighten does not seem to be as well make as I would like. The mount went on fine on my mp 15-22 rail. The nut tighten fine but I could feel where you could strip it or screw your rail up. Let me make it clear that this mount cost $10 and does exactly what I need it to do. Remember I am writing a review and want to give the truth and not drink any Primary Arms cool aid. For $10 it is a super value. It would be nice to have a high quality cantilever mount but I would then pay as much or more for a mount as I did my red dot. Maybe someone can rig up a QD for this mount. I think this could be done fairly easily if you knew where to get what you need to modify it. Note: READ the instuctions on how to tighten the mount to the rail before installing on your rail.
Next I mounted the red dot and that all went fine. It had 6 torx for the mount. So if you order you need a set of small torx screw drivers. I tighten them in small increments on each side to make the red dot tighten evenly across the mount. The red dot felt very solid in the mount once it was tighten. I suggest you remove the cover for the battery capsule, it gives you more room to tighten one of the torx bolts.
My setup with the 30mm Red Dot is lower 1/3 co-witness with the stock mp 15-22 sights. They were not the magpul sights. The standard front sight is super nice IMO. The rear sight is fine too. I can say I do like the lower 1/3 co-witness. My sights are dead on at 25 yards so I adjusted my red dot w/ the red dot reticle to match my sights. I am not sure this will hold true but it should. If it does not then it gives me more time at the range
. My impressions of the 2 moa red dot reticle are excellent. I also flipped between the other reticles and they are also nice and clear and crisp. The brightness levels are easy adjusted via the knob. I must give all of this an excellent. It has many brightness levels that would fit all my needs when shooting. All the caps/knobs are easily removeable. The battery is a CR2. You can find these batteries for cheap on the Internet. I will put a spare in my magpul plus grip with a little cloth to keep it from rattling. The lense caps seem fine. I am sure you could get better ones but these seem to provide the function I need. No complaints about the flip up lens caps.I feel this red dot is a perfect match for my mp 15-22 if it will hold up at the range and keep zero. After I get some mileage on this red dot and feel it is a solid product I will get one for my Double Star AR-15. I will say I do have a UTG Red Dot and this is a far superior product. It is not even a contast IMO.
I will say many people have said when you change the reticle that zero will not be the same for each. I can say I did flip between each reticle and co-witness through my stock sights and they appeared to be in the same place. I would like to purchase a troy rear folding sight but $119 is a lot. I like the troy because it has 2 different size peepholes. I think this would be a good combo with the Primary Arms 30mm tube red dot.
I will give another final review once I take it to the range. I really do not anticipate any issues with holding zero and feel if you are looking for a red dot for your mp 15-22 I think this fits the mold perfectly. I can only assume the micro dot that primary arms sells is of the same quality. I do know the micro dot is never in stock so it must be a quality product. I will also say if you are not going to use the other reticles on the Primary arms then get the 30mm 3 moa red dot. I assume it is just like the multi-reticle but with a slightly larger dot. I think it will save you some cash for other upgrades and perform as well as the multi-reticle.
