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02-19-2013, 02:02 PM
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15-22 Folding Stock Adatper
Just recently saw this out there for the standard AR-15: AR Folding Stock Adapter
Just wondering if anyone is interested in it for the 15-22? Obviously it wouldn't need to have the specialty parts to keep the bolt in place when folded, but that would make this quite a bit easier (I think). I know in the past there was interest in people wanting an adapter to be able to use a standard buffer tube, so this could fit that role as well. I would definitely require some modification to the original 15-22 though.
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02-21-2013, 11:39 AM
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I'm interested but not for 200.00 ! Wow!
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02-21-2013, 12:07 PM
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For 219.00 depends on how tactical you are.May have more merit on a 15-22 since it can be fired with the stock in the folded position.Hazard to think what the outcome would be if fired on a 5.56 platform.
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This adaptor is meant to be used with a conventional, removable buffer tube. Putting one on a 15-22 requires the lower stock extension to be physically cut off, thereby negating any realistic possibility of ever reinstalling the original stock.
Not everything that works on an AR15 works on a 15-22.
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02-21-2013, 12:57 PM
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I re-read my original post and what I meant to ask was if anyone was interested in something similar to that, but specifically built for the 15-22.
Like if one of the vendors here started making a 15-22 specific version for a more reasonable price?
A 15-22 version wouldn't have to be nearly as fancy since there is no buffer and bolt to worry about, but a good way to attach to the 15-22 plastic "buffer tube" would have to be found. And it would be a permanent modification. Being able to add a standard buffer tube (mil-spec or commercial) and a non-collapsible stock could be nice. Also, a folding stock on the 15-22 would just be cool.
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Originally Posted by telero
I re-read my original post and what I meant to ask was if anyone was interested in something similar to that, but specifically built for the 15-22.
Like if one of the vendors here started making a 15-22 specific version for a more reasonable price?
A 15-22 version wouldn't have to be nearly as fancy since there is no buffer and bolt to worry about, but a good way to attach to the 15-22 plastic "buffer tube" would have to be found. And it would be a permanent modification. Being able to add a standard buffer tube (mil-spec or commercial) and a non-collapsible stock could be nice. Also, a folding stock on the 15-22 would just be cool.
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I don't think there would be a big enough market.
TOO pricey.
"Being able to add a standard buffer tube (mil-spec or commercial) and a non-collapsible stock could be nice."
Not a big enough market either.
"Being able to add a standard buffer tube (mil-spec or commercial) and a non-collapsible stock could be nice."
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02-21-2013, 03:10 PM
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Is it even NFA legal? It certainly makes the AR qualify as a pistol when folded and it can certainly be fired, despite the embossed "Do not fire" thing.
I dunno. I guess they couldn't sell them if they weren't legal but it looks questionable to me.
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02-21-2013, 03:24 PM
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A folding stock doesn't make it a pistol. The only issue would be if the overall length of the rifle was measured with the stock folded, but that's not how the ATF measures them. They measure with a folding stock not folded and a collapsible stock at it's longest setting.
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it can certainly be fired, despite the embossed "Do not fire" thing.
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An AR-15 could be fired once, but not safely since the BCG would be driven directly into the person firing it without resistance. That being the case, you'd probably also be looking at a damaged charging handle and a damaged BCG gas tube or piston line (depending on what you have)
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An AR-15 could be fired once, but not safely since the BCG would be driven directly into the person firing it without resistance. That being the case, you'd probably also be looking at a damaged charging handle and a damaged BCG gas tube or piston line (depending on what you have)
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This is true.
But back to the point: The one I posted is for an AR15, not for a 15-22. A version for the 15-22 (or other dedicated AR-22's, not AR-15's with .22 uppers) would be much simpler, and hopefully less expensive. I'd be interested in a version for the 15-22 and I was just curious if anyone else would be too...if there was enough interest one of the manufacturers here might make them...
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02-21-2013, 04:18 PM
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I don't think there would be a big enough market.
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I'll mark you down as a no...but I'm more interested in those that ARE interested. You also mentioned price being an issue. What if the price for a 15-22 specific version was reasonable?
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Put me down as a NO, too.
Useful on a combat firearm, possibly. On a 15-22 ... For what practical purpose?
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02-21-2013, 04:52 PM
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Useful on a combat firearm, possibly. On a 15-22 ... For what practical purpose?
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Sometimes it just makes transport or storage easier. And it looks cool.
Here are some pictures of an M-16 built with one. With and without suppressor.
http://imgur.com/a/ANKNH
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What would you consider to be a reasonable price for one for a 15-22?
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What would you consider to be a reasonable price for one for a 15-22?
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I've seen a couple out there that are for other platforms (AK to AR for example) going from $25-40. For a good one made for the 15-22 (and possibly other 15-22 systems?) I was thinking $50-60 would be reasonable. I'm not sure if someone could make and sell them for that little though. There would definitely have to be some good interest.
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$50-60 might be reasonable for the purchaser, but wouldn't be worth the time of the machinist. Most barrel shrouds are that much and they are primarily just turned on a lathe and then have holes drilled in them. This would require CNC mill time and much more time, at that. The only way to get the price into your "reasonable" range would be to mold the parts and sell thousands of them. I would look at adapting an AK or shotgun part and using a normal AR buffer tube instead of trying to reattach the plastic tube.
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Considering that the "buffer tube" and the lower receiver are one piece, how do you thread anything into the back of the lower? I seriously doubt the lower is strong enough to cut off the extension flush with the rear of the receiver, drill into the receiver and then thread the hole.
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Considering that the "buffer tube" and the lower receiver are one piece, how do you thread anything into the back of the lower? I seriously doubt the lower is strong enough to cut off the extension flush with the rear of the receiver, drill into the receiver and then thread the hole.
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Not necessarily threading into the receiver. Possibly a metal collar that would go around a stump of the original "buffer tube" and would have the threads to accept the adapter.
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Not necessarily threading into the receiver. Possibly a metal collar that would go around a stump of the original "buffer tube" and would have the threads to accept the adapter.
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Interesting ...
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Re: 15-22 Folding Stock Adatper
Believe it or not, if you type "folding stock m&p 15-22" on google.com you find this question asked...
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Believe it or not, if you type "folding stock m&p 15-22" on google.com you find this question asked...
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Interesting...I could have swore I had typed that into google and hadn't found anything. I must have been just a little off. Looks like I have some more searching to do. I think I'd still like something that was able to use a standard buffer tube so that a collapsible stock would be an option.
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Obviously price would be an issue and as another member stated, I too would perfer that it still have a buffer type tube so a collapsible stock could still be used. The biggest thing would be having the balls to cut off the existing solid buffer tube area currently on the rifle, which I'm sure would void all warrenties.
Somebody with more advanced skills then me should do it and post a Youtube video on how it was done.
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I'll mark you down as a no...but I'm more interested in those that ARE interested. You also mentioned price being an issue. What if the price for a 15-22 specific version was reasonable?
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Still no way. Keep me marked as solid NO. I like the 15-22 just as is. I wouldn'nt consider it on my FS either.
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Believe it or not, if you type "folding stock m&p 15-22" on google.com you find this question asked...
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So who made or makes this... was it homemade... definitely got a cool factor to it...
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So who made or makes this... was it homemade... definitely got a cool factor to it...
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That is actually strobro32's (on this forum). He also posted pictures over at SilencerTalk. I asked him some questions about the rifle once you cut the stock, and it is essentially the same as the pistol once the stock is cut. He customed up a folding stock and it looks pretty good. Here are some pictures he sent me (and said I could post here).
So a plug for the hole in the rear of the receiver with a mount for the buffer tube is really my ultimate goal. There was a guy that made an adapter for the pistol at one point that should work on the rifle, but he seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. I wish someone else would pick up and make that adapter. Then I could use it, plus one of these 404 - Document Not Found and a buffer tube to get what I want.
Here's the video of the adapter piece the guy made:
Smith Wesson 15-22 pistol butt stock mod full auto - YouTube
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