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madbull airsoft Daniel Defense Handguards compatible with tacticool barrel nut?
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QuiQNeZZ
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Someone may correct me if I'm wrong but from what I can see most of their stuff will fit as it seems as though they use the same thread size as for a AR15. The JP is the one i'm looking at getting and another member here has it installed and I believe all he used was the tacticool nut adapter.
They are all replicas licensed by the real manufacturers. Made for Airsoft guns which seem to use a lot of the same fittings/parts as the real guns.
They are all replicas licensed by the real manufacturers. Made for Airsoft guns which seem to use a lot of the same fittings/parts as the real guns.
Turdducken
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Just dont use for an actual AR 15, pretty sure the recoil and everything would smash em, I could be proven wrong but they are made for airsoft guns remember that. Other wise I would like to see and if it works good I might do the same lol.
QuiQNeZZ
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Right, the madbull's are made of aluminum but i'm pretty sure it'll hold up on a .22. In looking at the actual JP Enterprises site they don't state what their handguard tubes are made of but i'm assuming it's steel? They only state what the nuts are made of and it IS steel.
jp is not going to make a steel handguard. its a high end manufacturer.
Claymore_Dude
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Before getting into RS, I ran a lot of airsoft guns; not run-of-the-mill airsoft guns, but reputable ones from brands such as KWA, WE, and even a VFC. I can tell you now, that those madbulls will indeed not fit on a RS Ar-15 because there is no hole drilled for a gas rod. However, since the 15-22 does not have that, you'd be able to install it just fine. Also as a word of caution, I recommend that you buy from reputable brands such as Madbull where their products are actually licensed meaning that their compatibility is much better. They build these rails for GBB (mostly AEG) M4s which with some mods to the buffer and BCG can kick equivalently to a .22. From what I know, the rails are real-spec meaning that the threads will work with RS receiver threads. As said, avoid any ACM ****, because they are not of the highest CQ, and may not be real-spec, so the threads and RIS will not run flush.
yugowego
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I think it will fit 
Real DD RISII on the left, Madbull Airsoft version has more of a burnt bronze look.
Real DD RISII on the left, Madbull Airsoft version has more of a burnt bronze look.
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QuiQNeZZ
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I think it will fit
Madbull version of the Daniel Defense RIS II. Real one on the left.
What kind of barrel nut does it use? Is it the star shaped one like this?
Redwolf states that they are out of stock of the wrenches for this nut. In the real JP instructions it states that you can use a "Standard" armorers wrench. I've seen a couple on amazon that seem to have that star shaped imprint to be able to go around that nut. But not sure if it will fit this particular nut. Does anybody know the name of this type of star pattern/size that is needed for this nut?
yugowego
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What kind of barrel nut does it use? Is it the star shaped one like this?
Redwolf states that they are out of stock of the wrenches for this nut. In the real JP instructions it states that you can use a "Standard" armorers wrench. I've seen a couple on amazon that seem to have that star shaped imprint to be able to go around that nut. But not sure if it will fit this particular nut. Does anybody know the name of this type of star pattern/size that is needed for this nut?
hard to explain but it looks nothing like that...sorta looks like a standard AR barrel nut with no teeth on it and groves for a wrench
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QuiQNeZZ
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Figured that, seems as though some are proprietary. I saw a video for a Troy battlerail install and I think it had the same or similar type star shaped wrench for it's barrel nut.
How is the build quality compared to the real one? Any cons so far?
Claymore_Dude
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To save myself a few hundred words, here's a link describing DD's proprietary nut install. This is for the Airsoft version that you are asking about:DD Rail Installation
yugowego
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it is offically licensed by DD... very well made from what i can see and feel...its held up well for around 1k+ rounds
edit to add....
Features:
•Lightweight, Two Piece Design
•Quick Installation
•Official License by Daniel Defense
•Removable Lower Handguard to Easily Mount M203 Grenade Launchers
•Integrated Ambidextrous Sling Swivel Mount Points (Swivel Mounts not Included)
•Professional Matte Hard Coat Anodized Finish
•Aircraft Grade 6061 Aluminum
yugowego
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QuiQNeZZ
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Yeah, looks like they are pretty decent quality replicas. I'm just not trying to spend alot as even with goind with a few upgrades that I have planned I think i'm going to come close to 3-400 more dollars put into this gun. Haha. So trying to keep the costs down.
Think i'll eventually be going with the JP, just love the look. And I found alot of armorer wrenches which have the "multipoint" section for the JP nut. Just gotta figure out which one now. Amazon has a few on there but some of the cheaper and even mid range ones seem to break or bend. I think that some people are just over torque'n them out of spec without a torque wrench.
anyways, thanks for the info.
Think i'll eventually be going with the JP, just love the look. And I found alot of armorer wrenches which have the "multipoint" section for the JP nut. Just gotta figure out which one now. Amazon has a few on there but some of the cheaper and even mid range ones seem to break or bend. I think that some people are just over torque'n them out of spec without a torque wrench.
anyways, thanks for the info.
yugowego
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Sweet, looking forward to it!
QuiQNeZZ
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So in talking with the other member here that has the JP, the inside barrel nut serves no purpose on the 15-22. Seems from looking at the instructions it is for holding the airsoft barrel onto the receiver. Only tricky part is getting the gas tube hole to line up with the reciever's top rail by just screwing it on to the tacticool adapter.
Got some anodizing ideas on some parts and I think it's going to come out looking bad ***! All the different manufacturers seem to be ok with sending me their parts naked. The colors will be awesome.
Got some anodizing ideas on some parts and I think it's going to come out looking bad ***! All the different manufacturers seem to be ok with sending me their parts naked. The colors will be awesome.
In response to the OP's question, yes the Tacticool nut is compatible. To mount the DD RISII take off the original barrel nut and handguard, file off the tabs on the reciever, then in this order slide on the DD rail "ring" that comes with the rail (will fit flush against the receiver), then the DD barrel nut that also comes with the rail (this acts as a spacer), then the Tacticool barrel nut. Tighten down the Tacticool barrel nut and it's solid as a rock. You will need to Dremel out the inside of the DD RISII rail (if you are mounting, you will see what I'm talking about, it's an internal "ring" inside the actual rail) just a touch to get the final fit perfect. Takes about 15-20 minutes to mount one and looks freakin' awesome.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=89293&d=1351003743
http://smith-wessonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=89293&d=1351003743
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QuiQNeZZ
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So am I to assume that the only thing holding the barrel to the receiver is the barrel nut? And that the tacticool nut not only acts as an adapter but as a Replacement for the stock nut and will also hold the barrel in place? I ask because on the jp install, both on the madbull airsoft version and the real jp for a real ar15, the barrel tube nut is merged into the receiver with red lock tite then the inner nut it seems is to tighten down the barrel to the receiver? The other member here who installed his said he didn't need the inner nut. I guess because the tacticool nut is already holding down the barrel into the receiver?
Correct, the Tacticool nut is replacing the original barrel nut and acting as an adapter (along with the DD barrel nut as a spacer) to both hold the barrel in the receiver and allow mounting of the DD RIS II. It is an extremely solid mount once you tighten the Tacticool barrel nut down.
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