Finally a Shield 40 with NO thumb safety!

Was it an even trade? Would love to do this! Hopefull...

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Hardly. Where I work, we sell a new Shield for $389. [all the stores pay $335 for non LE guns]. So we'd sell a clean used one for $280-$300, which means we'd pay $225-$250 for that used Shield whether it had 10 or 1000 rds through it. It's almost like Pawn Stars, with people wanting to trade it in for the retail price. Hey, we've got to pay rent, payroll, & all other types of money to keep the business rolling, so if the customer wants retail prices, we politely tell them to put the gun on Gunbroker, & wait for the sale to happen. Now this might take a week for the exchange to happen, but the customer can't wait a week to get the new gun, & wants instant gratification. Again, we try to work with the customer, & offer to hold the new gun for up to a month with just a $50 deposit. Then they can sell their gun for the max, & when they have the cash, bring it to the store, & collect the new gun. But there's the instant gratification thing tugging at their leg screaming forget gunbroker, take the trade in price so I can take my new gun home today. That's how 80% of our deals happen. The customer can't wait. GARY

I am strange I guess. I don't mind the safety at all.

I'm even stranger. I want the safety. The idea of carrying concealed with one in the pipe and no safety scares me. I am just training to sweep the safety and don't find it to be that hard. May change my tune if it ever hits the fan.


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SD40VE and Shield 9

Yeah, I don't mind it at all on the shield, as it's so low pro.

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Me neither, never bothered me one bit. Just ignored it.

Hope all you guys that ignore the safety, don't have it accidentally engaged when you pull to fire in self defense.....

I train with it. No problem at all.
Have had other's with them through the years.
Never an issue with me.
Browning Hi Power I bought new in 1984, Sig 210-6, High Standard .22's etc.
I am just surprised so many accept it on 1911's but not this one? LOL LOL.
Now folks have a choice, nothing wrong with that.
If I were in the market today I would buy the same one, with the safety. The little thing is a tack driver and always goes bang. Happy as a clam.

Let's not forget the compact also has a manual safety. Seems s&w skipped over the non safety model of that one lol.

Like I've said before. Marketing gimmick is all this is.

And likexplained the above post stated. How come no one complains of them on the 1911. Every 1911 I own has one. Even those ultra compact ones I own have it. And once again no complaints..........some people just look for something to complain about now days.

Totally agree - just train a little & it's not a problem - in fact it's a benifit

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For the record, I learned on and carried a 1911 for years. Sweeping my thumb on the left side of the slide of any auto pistol is second nature, whether or not it's equipped with a thumb safety.

I've carried my Shield 9mm with the safety in the off position for the entire time I've had it (for over a year). I carry it IWB, pocket carry with a holster, and OWB daily. I don't fear the safety will engage or disengage itself.

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They could have done it right. Just made a Shield in .45 with an ambi safety. Then once again the sells would soar and they would make good profits. Way more profit than they will make off this NS idea.

Happy for you! I don't fear my safety will engage either. .......OH SNAP...I don't have one!... lol

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Precisely!

You are not strange. I do not mind the safety either.
I am so used to thumbing the safety on or off it has
become second nature.

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I didnt really mind the safety either, but I would rather NOT have it. No it wasn't an even trade.. Do you think the LGS is crazy? I had to pay, but it wasn't too bad.

LOL. They might be crazy, but I doubt it!

While I'd love to get a NTS Shield, I'd take too big of a hit to simply trade.

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The shield without the thumb safety is almost the best concealed carry gun on the market. The ONLY improvement that could be made is a rear sight that isn't so sharp and should have a more snag free design. I pocket carry a lot, and the rear sight really grabs on the draw.....Just sayin...

The answer to that is to replace the factory sights with night sights - I put Ameriglos on mine. And that's not at all the *only* improvement...

While you are swapping sights drop in an Apex kit and have as close to awesome as you're ever going to get with your Shield...

I agree.. But if S&W is going to be so crazy about the way they affix the rear sight, they should make them better than. I and a gun smith can't even take my set screw out it's torqued in so tight it will need to be drilled out.

I wish they mAde the ejector as tight as the rear sight and set screw....... .....lol

While I do not carry with my safety engaged, except on the rare occasions that I pocket carry, I do engage the safety every time I holster the gun.

After watching the video where the police chief shoots himself in the leg while holstering his Glock, I believe my thinking is pretty sound. For those of you that have not seen the video, the pull cord on his jacket got caught in his trigger guard as he was holstering.

My holster was custom made for the Shield and covers the trigger and has never engaged the safety. Given the choice, I would take the safety version again.

I have the Trijicon HD front night sight. I never really saw a snag free rear sight anywhere? The trigger is fine with me. It's smooth and has under. 6 lb. pull. At 7-10 yards I put 100 rounds in a ragged hole about the size of a half dollar.

I wonder if the new Shields include any "secret design enhancements".

I start dros on my 9mm tomorrow

I wonder if it shoots any better than the thumb safety one?

Not to me... Just as good, but not any 'better'.

The no safety model (as well as the no loaded chamber indicator flag model, no mag safety) are "off roster" here in Cali. Given the price is just about the same, I chose the "exotic" model.

Only 10 more days to wait.

IMO it's not worthing giving up a perfectly working paid for weapon and add more money. For a weapon that is basically the same. Minus a safety function. Odd as it may seems.....no thanks but I'll keep mine and the money for more ammo.

You sir think with your brain. Sadly, most of us think about women, guns, & cars with another organ. GARY

And on another note let's not forget the past wit the shield. There were a bunch of people having problems with newer shields. Why would I give up a perfectly functioning weapon for another newer shield that could end up having problems down the road.

Mine works fine both as a .40 and as a 9mm. With over 10k rounds down the pipe. I'm sure I can say mine is well past broken in with 0 problems.

Very true. Personally I think the Shield with safety -vs- Shield without safety is mostly just a placebo effect...but too each their own.

The main reason I am posting in this thread is to repeat what I have said in the past. All told, there is a very small amount of Shields displaying any problems. Compared to the number of Shields sold, the problematic ones barely register at all. We see them here because this is a S &W forum specifically designed for discussion, but overall, there are very few problems. And of those problems, many of them are people using the gun in a way it wasn't intended to be used. An example of this is people complaining it is too difficult to pull the slide back. That isn't a defect, that is a person trying to use a gun that doesn't work for their capabilities.

Basically, I wouldn't let an extremely small amount of actual issues keep anyone from buying and enjoying a Shield with or without a safety. I'm willing to bet the actual defect rate of Shields is near or less to the percentage of most other similarly manufactured guns.

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First: I agree with Lycan regarding the very small number of issues with Shields. Both of mine, in 9mm, from different serial number runs, worked fine out of the box. They were both modified with the Apex Carry Kit for the Shield, and Novak sights. Took care of any complaints I might have had with both the trigger and sights. Mine get passed around my shooting group every month, and I should get a commission from S&W for all the Shields purchased after mine was tested !

I have a no-safety model at my dealer's, waiting for his return from vacation. I will probably sell one of my Shields with the safety to a member in my group, but have never had a problem with the safety itself.

Put another 200 down range today, no issues at all. Have just over 1000 through it so far. Perfect every time. Accurate as hell too! For such a small gun. Its a keeper.

Lol at everyone dogging on the safety


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That's why Glock never had a manual safety... Because it's completely unnecessary. Just like people that have to have a suicide strap on their holster... Completely unnecessary and could get you killed.

I disagree because our current military uses many weapons with a manual safety. I believe they would stand a higher chance at getting killed than the average citizen. Plus let's not forget many people train themselves to instinctively click their safety off. And others just don't use the safety at all. In the case of the shield it's a matter of preference, I guess.

But IMO it's a marketing gimmick by s&w. They need to make a quick buck. So they introduce a new weapon that's 99.9% identical to the old one. Yet they charge u more for it. It's not like they needed much R&D to figure out how to remove the safety lol.

The MSRP is the same as it was!

My point exactly. It should cost less because there is less work and material in building it. Plus they didn't need any R&D for it because it was already done when building the safety version. All they did was just remove the safety. In this case with less material, less labor in building, and no R&D. It should cost a considerable amount less.

Once again IMO this was just their way of attempting to boost sales again. If they really wanted something cool. Why didn't they just make a .45 to compete with the XDS. Or start selling the factory 9 mm barrels again. Then they would have more money. Except let's remember they would need more R&Dol to design the .45. So this is why they only took the safety out of the equation. They spent hardly no money and no time. Thus increased the sales of the shield again. And kept the price the same as the other.......good marketing, if u are a company. That's for sure.

Here in CA, the difference was $10. The CA compliant model includes a hideous LCI, mag safety and thumb safety. Since the NTS is "off roster", I had to pay another $25 for the single shot exception fee. I paid it gladly.

Seems to me that most dogging the safety have drank some of the Glock Koolade at some point. LOL the safety never bothered me so why bother it.


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More like heroin than koolaid because it's killing off brain cells. The more they try to justify their antisafty positions, the more ridiculous they sound. The Glock fanbots new slogan should be:

Thanks to all that congratulated me on my new gun..... Like I was hoping.... Oh well....

Congradulation on the new gun, I am considering doing the same.

Congrats! I love mine as well.

Congrats, I guess! Although I agree with you about the safety. Don't like it, completely unnecessary. If it's not mandatory for function it only adds problems. As far as trading one for the other. ....I just wouldn't have bought the original in the first place.

That being said. ....do you really need congratulating?

Well if they had the non safety model a year ago, I would have never bought the safety model. I waited a year to get mine to begin with... Oh well, at least I am happy for myself !