I picked up a 25 round box of the 9mm ammo last night after reading it was essentially critical defense with green tips and brass casing. It was on sale and $5 less than a box of CD.
Now I read all of this stuff online that you shouldn't use it in your carry weapon because of legal liability as there website says it is only for use on zombies and not humans?
Is this seriously a concern?
I guess I will use it at a range and buy some federal hst or Winchester pdx if I can find them.
I was thinking about trying to return it to scheels as I see nothing on their website about ammo not being returnable

I was planning to use it in my shield. I carry 380 cd in my bodyguard and critical duty 40 s&w in my bedside pistol

Ammo is not returnable at most stores, and I believe Scheels even has signage at the registers stating it....

Oh well I will shoot it at the range. I may carry it for now anyway. If it's the same as cd I think it will be fine

I recommend checking YouTube for zombie max videos.

From the hornady website...
http://www.hornady.com/store/9mm-Luger-115-gr-ZMAX
Weird

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Very wierd my court defense could be I thought he was a zombie

It depends on whether you are sued by a zombie or by a human.

Its more than likely a disclaimer for liability reasons....

But...what are those reasons?
I must be too narrow minded to not be able to think of this as anything but weird...and just a spoof.

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Use them and shoot somebody with them, then have the family go after you and Hornady in a lawsuit kind of reasons...... I can only imagine the ideas that a personal injury attorney could come up with, representing the family of a guy killed or wounded with a "Zombie" round......


I would also venture to guess that the projectiles may be factory seconds, and this was a creative way for Hornady to get rid of them.....

Extrapolating that theory, all Ammo manufactures should disclaim all ammo as "not for use on humans and/or animals"

No offense but that theory doesn't hold water with me considering even Hornady offers Critical Defense ammo (as an example) and it carries no such disclaimer...

Anyway I sent them an email because I'm intrigued enough to find out what's up

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From Hornady's website


"Disclaimer: Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is NOT a toy (IT IS LIVE AMMUNITION), but is intended only to be used on…ZOMBIES, also known as the living dead, undead, etc. No human being, plant, animal, vegetable or mineral should ever be shot with Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition. Again, we repeat, Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is for use on ZOMBIES ONLY, and that's not a nickname, phrase or cute way of referring to anybody, place or thing. When we say Zombies, we mean…ZOMBIES!"



Hahahahahaha! Not bad marketing... But I must ask you, are you being serious when you ask if you should be worried about the legal liability?

If so then please put away your pistol and first read up on understanding the consquences & legalities of using deadly force, improving conflict resolution skills & maybe taking a conceal carry course before worrying about some cute marketing skills by some intern.

I'm not buying into the zombie marketing by Hornady or anyone else.

I have a box of zombie max in 45 ACP but I can't find a Zombie to shoot. Anyone know where I can find some? After all if I end up in court I can always claim that the Zombie was already dead.

Well, Remember when McDonalds lost a large PI lawsuit, because some lady didn't think the coffee was hot enough to burn her?????????

And FYI, I have taken the MN CCW course, twice. One of the things that sticks in my mind because it was mentioned several times by both instructors was, "you will be sued by the person you shot or their family, don't give them anymore to use against you than they think they already have". I'm assuming that Hornady does not want to be party to any more lawsuits than it already is, and issued said disclaimer to distance itself from liability, should you or somebody else use their "Zombie" ammo, for personal defense. No need to insult me further, or question my qualifications to carry a weapon. If you have a serious question, perhaps consult an attorney on the matter......

I was reading on another forum that people will not use them in their carry gun due to potential liability. Seems pretty stupid if they are just cd.
Do you think they have some sort of special gun powder that kills the undead

I'm sorry. I didnt mean to insult. You're instructor does have a valid point & I would think about that as well in all honestly.

But if you are really worried about the disclaimer then perhaps this target is the only thing you can shoot then...

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I'm not worried about it. I have not used the ammo in the past, do not use it currently, and have no plans to do so in the future. Perhaps you should consult the OP, and direct your posts towards his questions. I simply offered up answers to his original questions.

There was a point a year ago when that was the only .45acp available in these parts. I would contend that the ammo shortages largely precipitated by the government made it necessary to buy the Zombie ammo. And I still have it because I haven't had the need to shoot anything (living or dead) since that time.

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Anybody know where you can find some zombies? I'm dying to check out this ammo.

I'm pretty sure it's the same bullet as the FTX bullets just without the lower flash powder and nickel casing.

IMHO Hornady is not selling the ammo, they're selling the box. Get yourself some Winchester white box 115 Gr. JHP and leave the marketing gimmicks behind.

You DO realize zombies aren't real........ Right?

Personally, I buy silver bullets for the werewolves.

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There is a great documentary about zombies called the walking dead. I've been boarded up in my house for 4 years it scares me so much. Poor Atlanta it was such a great city

I love the walking dead and all, but I am so tired of this zombie merchandizing nonsense. I woukdnt put a penny into Hornady's pocket to but that ****, and that goes for zombie neon green grips, targets, Colt Pythons (I know they're not made anymore, but don't tell me the walking dead isn't a big reason why their prices are so high).

This **** is marketed to pimple squeezing kids living in Mom's basement.

I see no guarantee that this ammo will kill Zombies. Personal I prefer a shotgun 00 buck takes their heads right off.

I just bought it because it was on sale and I thought it was basically critical defense

Disclaimer: Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is NOT a toy (IT IS LIVE AMMUNITION), but is intended only to be used on…ZOMBIES, also known as the living dead, undead, etc. No human being, plant, animal, vegetable or mineral should ever be shot with Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition. Again, we repeat, Hornady® Zombie Max™ ammunition is for use on ZOMBIES ONLY, and that's not a nickname, phrase or cute way of referring to anybody, place or thing. When we say Zombies, we mean…ZOMBIES!

Since I don't anticipate crossing paths with a zombie, guess I can spend my money on something else. Probably works best with a crimson trace laser.

I had some in 45 acp and it shot great from my Colt 1911 . Would get more .

But-but-but, it SPECIFICALLY states for use against zombies only...

and if you ARE using it as intended and not sharing...I'm gonna tell your momma

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I think these would be worth hoarding / saving.
I think they will be made to stop one way or the other.
& your grand kids will get a kick out of reading the box, or who knows they may get to use them

It's ammo with a fun label. It's crazy how people go crazy about how irresponsible it is for the labeling or how much of a ****** product it is.

As a self defense ammo, I'd rate it between Critical Defense and bargain bin because it having a good bullet with the lack of low flash powder and nickel casing.
Would I use it? Only if I had to. Otherwise, it's fun to have a box and say I have zombie ammo.

If I run across any I will buy 2 boxes 1 to put up & the other I will empty & take my ammo to the range in it & make sure it is sitting in plain view

Same...I bought it because it was cheaper than Hornady CD. I thought TNOutdoors9 did a YouTube review saying it was CD with a green tip vs red tip.

If you are worried about it... find some critical defense, use that.

Use the Zombie ammo to test function, as it is always a good idea to test your preferred carry round for reliability in your pistol. A couple of boxes of testing is a good minimum. And if the Zombie stuff
saves you a few bucks, then good.