M&P 2.0 Field Stripping

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Greetings everyone! This is my first post (yea me). I've just picked my first M&P pistol on Monday, a 2.0 9mm compact. So far love it. I was watching a YouTube video on it and when it came to field stripping the host said Smith & Wesson did not recommend pulling the trigger take the slide off (rather use the tool). The factory manual said to do this as well - and pull off the back strap also. I've had many other semi-autos and haven't had an issue with pulling the trigger (myself). This seem a bit over the top for me. My dad has an older M&P 40c and he understood it was either/or. Is this the case or something new with the 2.0? Will it cause damage some how or void warranty? Or is this "recommended" and I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill. Thanks!
 
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Technically all the sear lever does is push the sear flat to release the slide . As far as I know there is not suppose to be an issue with dry firing a M&P . The reason they recommend the sear lever is in case you forget a round in the chamber and you pull the trigger to release the slide and boom a negligent discharge .
 
Nicefish said:
Greetings everyone! This is my first post (yea me). I've just picked my first M&P pistol on Monday, a 2.0 9mm compact. So far love it. I was watching a YouTube video on it and when it came to field stripping the host said Smith & Wesson did not recommend pulling the trigger take the slide off (rather use the tool). The factory manual said to do this as well - and pull off the back strap also. I've had many other semi-autos and haven't had an issue with pulling the trigger (myself). This seem a bit over the top for me. My dad has an older M&P 40c and he understood it was either/or. Is this the case or something new with the 2.0? Will it cause damage some how or void warranty? Or is this "recommended" and I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill. Thanks!
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Yes, it is merely a recommended safety procedure! If you want to do it, it is a good procedure to follow. You will cause no damage if you choose to dry fire, or pull the trigger in order to remove the slide, barrel assy. I push down the sear disconnect some times and other times I'll dry fire it. depending on my mood! LOL.
 
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Thanks folks for the input! Sounds like it either/or then and it doesn't matter if it's 2.0. or other. It's also nice too hear confirmation that it's ok to dry fire. Intend to that alot.
 
I think I've maybe used the sear lever once or twice to take down an M&P. and I've dry fired them thousands of times and live fire thousands more...haven't had to replace any strikers yet. I'll replace the striker spring every down and again though.

these are great guns, you'll get of use out of it. I'm gonna be coming for one of these compacts I think... I just can't stand not being part of the fun!!
 
I don't get this about pistols & having to pull the trigger to release the slide. I just tried it on my M&P & a few other pistols I have, to field strip the pistol you have to lock back the slide anyway, to be able to turn the slide lock lever.
So by pulling the slide rear ward even if you did have a round in the chamber it would follow the slide anyway & eject due to the extractor claw, before you would even pull the trigger to release the slide to remove it for cleaning.
 
Shootingfun said:
I don't get this about pistols & having to pull the trigger to release the slide. I just tried it on my M&P & a few other pistols I have, to field strip the pistol you have to lock back the slide anyway, to be able to turn the slide lock lever.
So by pulling the slide rear ward even if you did have a round in the chamber it would follow the slide anyway & eject due to the extractor claw, before you would even pull the trigger to release the slide to remove it for cleaning.
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Remember what they say... make something idiot-proof and somebody will come up with a better idiot. There actually ARE people dumb enough to pull the slide back with a loaded magazine inserted, eject the chambered round, pull the disassembly lever down then drop the slide thus chambering yet another round.
 
dsk said:
Remember what they say... make something idiot-proof and somebody will come up with a better idiot. There actually ARE people dumb enough to pull the slide back with a loaded magazine inserted, eject the chambered round, pull the disassembly lever down then drop the slide thus chambering yet another round.
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What, if you would ever do that, then in my opinion you should just get rid of your firearms. It is common knowledge to remove mag, also how wouldn't you not notice the weight of the pistol with the mag inserted. I guess I'll never understand the stupidity of others.
 
In the old days natural selection took care of these kinds of morons. Nowadays they (or their survivors) are suing the manufacturers for failing to stop them from hurting themselves and winning. That's why you've got the huge "CAUTION - CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH MAGAZINE REMOVED" marking on the side and a user manual where the entire first half is nothing but "don't do this and don't do that" safety warnings. I am waiting for the first gun company to put a huge orange warning tag on their firearms that says "Do not load this pistol with live ammunition. You might shoot yourself and sue us".

That's why I'm one of those people who will pay more for older pre-lock S&W revolvers and Series 70 Colt 1911s. Nothing wrong with the new guns function-wise, but I prefer not to be reminded that companies are having to account for the lowest common denominator these days. I am glad the M&P series currently do not have magazine safeties or built-in locks, but I am afraid some day they will.
 
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Shootingfun said:
What, if you would ever do that, then in my opinion you should just get rid of your firearms. It is common knowledge to remove mag, also how wouldn't you not notice the weight of the pistol with the mag inserted. I guess I'll never understand the stupidity of others.
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Put in a few years qualifying new shooters in a state's required class and you will come to believe Murphy was an optimist. People show up with a borrowed semiauto they've never fired, and some having never having shot ANY handgun, expecting to be taught EVERYTHING. What? I should have brought eye and ear protection? Ammunition?
How about a middle aged man who said he knew all about it, but stopped in the middle of a string of fire to answer his cell phone??!? (Yes, they were briefed NO CELL PHONES ON THE RANGE)
 
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I've used the lever once just to see how it worked. Otherwise here's what I do. Drop the mag, rack the slide twice and on the third lock it back. Flip the take down lever, release slide. Pull trigger.
 
OKFC05 said:
How about a middle aged man who said he knew all about it, but stopped in the middle of a string of fire to answer his cell phone??!? (Yes, they were briefed NO CELL PHONES ON THE RANGE)
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OMG... now I've heard everything. :rolleyes:
 
I usually just pull the trigger to disassemble, but I try to always lower the sear lever before reassembly. First because it's really easy to do when the slide's off, secondly if you go to lock the slide back so you can raise the disassembly lever and you miss the notch or the slide slips out of your grasp because your fingers are all oily from just cleaning the gun (that's what happened to me with my Shield), the slide will crash forward, only being stopped by the striker slamming against the sear which is only held in place by a tiny pin. That can't be good for it.

With the Glock guns, the disassembly thingy is spring loaded so it's not a problem.
 
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Nicefish said:
Greetings everyone! This is my first post (yea me). I've just picked my first M&P pistol on Monday, a 2.0 9mm compact. So far love it. I was watching a YouTube video on it and when it came to field stripping the host said Smith & Wesson did not recommend pulling the trigger take the slide off (rather use the tool). The factory manual said to do this as well - and pull off the back strap also. I've had many other semi-autos and haven't had an issue with pulling the trigger (myself). This seem a bit over the top for me. My dad has an older M&P 40c and he understood it was either/or. Is this the case or something new with the 2.0? Will it cause damage some how or void warranty? Or is this "recommended" and I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill. Thanks!
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This is no big issue. Your manual suggests not pulling the trigger and just lower that little (Yellow on some) lever.
There's been some (some say lots but I guess two or three if someone is killed is "lots") concerns about Glocks requiring the trigger to be pulled when field stripping. You can do this with a
Smith & Wesson too. But they feel the method mentioned in the
manual is the safest method.
When handling a firearm any firearm. being careful is the best
choice.
Personally, I've had no problem on my (one) Glock__a G43. I sold
my G26 (Wasn't a good EDC pistol due to width) and had no problem following Glock's advise.
Now, if pulling the trigger causes you a concern then simply avoid
Glock pistols.
All makers advise to check that the pistol is unloaded every where in their manual.
Respect all firearms and follow all precautions and you'll be fine.
Any of the three pistols you're considering will serve you well. I'm not one to think about "Mods". Out of their boxes will be reliable,
more accurate than you are and will save your life.
Stay safe out there
Poli Viejo
 
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