M&P 2.0 compact accuracy vs Glock 19 Gen 5

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I read some comments about accuracy issues with the 2.0 so I was wondering what the out of the box accuracy I could expect from a 2.0 compact vs 19 Gen 5?
 
I can't help with a 2.0 Compact or Gen5 G19, but I do have a full sized 9mm 2.0 and a 3rd Gen G19. For me, the 2.0 is more accurate. The big thing, though, is that, again for me, the 2.0 is easier to shoot well than the G19. The ergonomics are better, so it is easier to shoot well. I don't have any complaints about the accuracy of my G19, but the 2.0 just feels better in the hand and has a better trigger, making it easier to shoot well. Hope that made sense.
 
We were at the range the other day and I was ringing steel at about 70 yards consistently with the 2.0 compact. At 15 yards I was getting about 3 inch groups semi-rapid fire.

While the Gen 5 Glocks are certainly an improvement overall accuracy wise, I personally shoot the MP line much better. It may be because the platform has a true sear unlike the Glock.
 
For my 9’s I have only owned and shot MP’s. Never tried a Glock until a night recently at a citizen academy I am in. We hit the dept range and used their service Glocks. Dont recall the model but felt similar to my full size MP.
I shot in decent groups but off to the side, nothing like the MP i am used to. Couldnt quite get the feel of the trigger and even how the trigger guard/frame felt. Didnt quite care for it.

Moral to my little story, “out of the box” would have been disappointing but one would assume with range time it would improve.
 
I can't compare to the Glock, but I bought a 2.0 compact this summer, and I didn't seem to be hitting steel plates with it as well as I thought I should, so I did a little test with it this week. At 25 yards, using the same ammo in each gun, I shot a 20 round group with the M&P and the Colt Competition I normally use for shooting steel. I shot the 20 round groups in strings of 5, alternating between pistols. The group size for the Colt was 2-1/2". Group size for the M&P was 3-1/2". The M&P isn't a bullseye gun, but I'm satisfied with it for a defensive pistol with fixed sights.
 
"Accuracy" of a particular gun, especially a handgun, is always an interesting discussion. In the end, people don't really care about the accuracy of the gun, but how they shoot it.

There are two considerations here:
  • What is the precision of the gun?
  • How well can the shooter utilize that precision?

When talking strictly about the gun, the Glock and M&P are going to be almost the same. In other words, the precision of each gun will be close enough to each other that the normal owner won't be able to realize a significant difference.

Add the shooter into the equation and things can be dramatically different. Everyone will shoot one better than the other. The question is, which works for you?

Just to confuse things a little more, there is accuracy and then there is precision. In path85's picture we can see that he is more precise with the Colt, but more accurate with the M&P. It's a perfect "real world" demonstration of the difference between accuracy and precision.
 
Mass manufactured guns with their liberal tolerances generally have about the same relative “accuracy”. Ten different guns each of similar models from two different manufacturers will average the same “accuracy”. There will be outliers in the 10-gun spreads: some less, some more accurate.

As many have stated before, the shooter is the key component. However, if you get the least accurate of ten Glocks, and the most accurate of the S&W’s, you may notice a difference. Both guns will be within specs. You will not be able to determine without shooting which stacked tolerances, +/-, produce which quality of gun.

If you are really after the high end unit, you will have to spend extra on aftermarket parts to wring the greatest potential out of you and the gun.

Other than that, both guns you are looking will shoot mechanically the same on average out to 15 yards. Don’t make a purchase decision based on accuracy.
 
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Indeed, totally depends on how YOU shoot it. I've shot a G19 twice, and I'm far from a Block fanboy. Don't like their grip at all. Of my 9mm's, I shoot the best to worst in the order of PPQ, S&W M&P, P99, Beretta 92, Browning Hi-Power. Oddly enough, I shoot the heavy trigger Hi-Power one handed better than some of the others. But its not that often that I go cowboy with a semi-auto 9mm either. My favorite, the Beretta, though I knowingly shoot most of the others better.
 
2.0 compact. Super tight groups but 5”low left

I love the gun. I’d there an adjustable site recommendation or red dot. I no it’s probably me. Bit can’t figure out how to adjust it
 
I'm not interested in anything beyond left ventricle / right ventricle which my 5" 2.0 in .40 will easily do, but it is the most inaccurate pistol I own if I really wanted to hit the X ring or even come reasonably close to it.

I attribute it 100% to the trigger. With a bench rested deliberate squeeze it will put all rounds touching at 30' or so but it doesn't suffer a trigger spank like any other .40 (steel or alloy frame) I own, and that's quite a few.

In short for my purpose I like the 2.0, it's lighter than most lower capacity alloy framed 40's, has the capacity of many 9's and points naturally for me unlike Glocks I've owned and shot which do not.
 
Thank you I haven’t bench shot it yet. Probably me and the trigger squeeze if I aim at the 9 at 1 o’clock it will touch grouping in the x
 
I think it's going to depend on what you're used to. I would expect most people that primarily shoot M&P's to shoot them better than they would a Glock.

Conversely, I'd expect most people that primarily shoot Glocks to shoot them better than they would an M&P.

It might be interesting to find out which gun new shooters do best with.
 
cma_g21 said:
I think it's going to depend on what you're used to. I would expect most people that primarily shoot M&P's to shoot them better than they would a Glock.

Conversely, I'd expect most people that primarily shoot Glocks to shoot them better than they would an M&P.

It might be interesting to find out which gun new shooters do best with.
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Judging by what I see in gun stores, new shooters ask for Glock because that's the brand they hear about, and if not the sales people push Glock like it's a drug :-)

That said, I doubt many new shooters will buy an M&P. Now if S&W had won the military contract, I think the M&P would have flown off the shelves!
 
cma_g21 said:
I think it's going to depend on what you're used to. I would expect most people that primarily shoot M&P's to shoot them better than they would a Glock.

Conversely, I'd expect most people that primarily shoot Glocks to shoot them better than they would an M&P.

It might be interesting to find out which gun new shooters do best with.
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I started with Walther, then CZ then 1911.
Then I tried Glocks... never was able to hit where I was aiming.
Now I feel the most comfortable with M&P9.
My son, who started with my M&P.... shoots Glocks better. :eek:

My guess is that some people adjust the wrist better on Glock's grip angle.
 
I have both the 3.6" M &P and Glock 19/5. They are both about the same, but I shoot the Glock more accurately. I think it is a matter of selecting the right palm swell to fit your hand. I just picked up the M & P and only shot it the one time so far.
 
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