Shield Plus Optics Ready

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I am considering a Shield Plus for an EDC. Looking at the S&W website. "Optics Ready" seems to mean there is a red dot already mounted.

I would like to have the potential to start off with normal sights then add a red dot later. Is there a model that has a plate or option to add optics later?

Is there any reason not to go with the Crimson Trace, vs a different choice of pistol red dot?
 
I believe I can answer part of your question. For simplicity I will cut and paste my response from another thread:


This is my own summary so accuracy not guaranteed, but I tried to condense the spec sheet info down to the significant differences between models.

There are currently 10 models (SKU's) with the "Shield Plus" label (all chambered in 9mm). Seven models are designed with a 3.1" barrel and three models have a 4" barrel:

M & P Pistols:

SKU 13246: 3.1", thumb safety, 13 rd mag + 10 mag
SKU 13247: 3.1", thumb safety, two 10 rd mags
SKU 13248: 3.1", no thumb safety, 13 rd mag + 10 rd mag
SKU 13249: 3.1", no thumb safety, two 10 rd mags
SKU 13250: 3.1", no thumb safety, 13 rd mag + 10 rd mag, tritium night sights

Performance Center: (all include: 13 rd mag + 10 rd mag; fiber optic sights; small cleaning kit)

SKU 13251: 4.0", no thumb safety, optics cut slide w/ Crimson Trace 4 MOA red dot
SKU 13252: 4.0", no thumb safety, regular slide
SKU 13253: 4.0", no thumb safety, optics cut slide w/ Crimson Trace 4 MOA red dot, ported barrel and slide
SKU 13254: 3.1", thumb safety, ported barrel and slide (no optics cut or red dot)
SKU 13255: same as 13254 plus "Carry Kit" (knife and flashlight)


Using this information you can see that the only two models that come with an optics ready cut slide are 13251 and 13253. They are both 4" barrels, and the only difference is that 13253 has a ported barrel and slide whereas 13251 does not.

As for the Crimson Trace red dot, it is not actually mounted on the slide, it just comes in the box and is mounted by the owner post-purchase. There is no option to eliminate this from the model package for credit and choose your own red dot instead.

To cut to the chase of your question, there is not an option to buy a pistol that has an optic cut on the slide with only "normal sights". The two models with the cut slide ( and included red dot) also have fiber optic sights if that meets your definition of normal (i.e. conventional 3-dot aiming).
 
I believe I can answer part of your question. For simplicity I will cut and paste my response from another thread:


To cut to the chase of your question, there is not an option to buy a pistol that has an optic cut on the slide with only "normal sights". The two models with the cut slide ( and included red dot) also have fiber optic sights if that meets your definition of normal (i.e. conventional 3-dot aiming).

Thanks for the info.

I had been browsing the S&W website and came to the same conclusion. By definition "optics ready" seems to imply cut for an optic. Other companies seem to also think optics ready means cut for optics, but S&W feels ready=included.
 
The CTS 1250 3.5 MoA red dot sight is a range toy, not built for rugged concealed carry use. The street price is the first indication of this at <$200.

For carry, #13252 would be my choice.

IMO fragile fiber optic sights are also not sufficiently robust for carry. If you are going to mount an optic with a red (or green) dot, having three other FO colored dots in the window is not wise. I would switch out the sights.

I would have the slide milled for whatever optic I chose when I was ready, most likely the higher quality Shield RMSc. A small width slide needs a small footprint RDS. The 4” barrel has numerous advantages. For IWB or OWB it is no harder to conceal.
 
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The CTS 1250 3.5 MoA red dot sight is a range toy, not built for rugged concealed carry use. The street price is the first indication of this at <$200.

For carry, #13252 would be my choice.

That is my impression also. Why go cheapest common denominator for "Optics Included" package.

I will likely go iron sighted.
 
S&W has not yet caught on to what makes a competent EDC RDS gun. Adding F/O sights, porting and an included cheap optic is marketing to the lowest common denominator. One would think one or more of their professional shooters could set them straight. Their PC is a financial arm rather than a useful upgrade arm.
 
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For carry, #13252 would be my choice.

IMO fragile fiber optic sights are also not sufficiently robust for carry.

. The 4” barrel has numerous advantages. For IWB or OWB it is no harder to conceal.

Thanks, even though you just un-did my choice which was:

SKU 13254: 3.1", thumb safety, ported barrel and slide (no optics cut or red dot).

I wanted ported barrel w/FO sights. If they are fragile then obviously that would not be a good choice.

How do you feel about the PC ported versions?

FYI I have the Shield 9 v1 bone stock and love it.
 
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FO sights are bright, and a typical install has a chosen color for the rear two dots and a second color for the front sight. At first this seems really helpful for alignment in decent light.

In truth, iron sights are not easier to align because of bright colors or large size. Proper, consistent presentation based on stance and grip (eventually just grip) aligns sights consistently. A wide black rear notch with a narrow front black blade has been known for speed and accuracy for many, many decades. They are bomb proof, never failing. Just the ticket for a SD gun.

Even three dots are unnecessary and a bit of a handicap when one considers the dots are all the same size so the front appears smaller being farther away. Concentrating on dots rather than the blade in the notch is an aid to beginner shooters, but it is not any faster or more precise than straight black irons properly aligned.

As to porting to supposedly reduce muzzle flip for faster follow up shots, it is more of a liability than an aid. Hot gases and bullet shavings being expelled from a 3.1”, or even 4” barrel, have a minor positive effect in 9mm, but shooting from closely held retention often puts those gases up into the shooter’s face.

In SD the gun may need to be held in odd positions because of the close range fight. The juice ain’t worth the squeeze given that proper grip for 9mm can provide the same benefit for recoil flip control, especially with a 4” vs. a 3.1” barrel. Porting is an extra expense that increases cleaning time and complexity, and depending on ammo can be really distracting shooting in the dark.

I’m not aware of any gunfights where porting was the major contributor in the win. I have a .44 magnum with a ported 6 3/8” barrel, and that porting definitely makes the gun easier to shoot. It goes paper shooting and plinking at extended arms position and I like it (black iron sights) and it shoots well at full extension. Porting has a place, but not in small, closely held self defense guns. Such holes allow fouling to get into the barrel also while carried.

If the goal is a series of faster aimed shots with a 9mm, improve grip and presentation consistency and you will achieve it with less expense and danger.

This consistent presentation/alignment is what makes red dots work so well. Properly aligned iron sights in the lower part of the RDS screen will produce the dot in the window. The dot anywhere in the window applied to the target, ignoring any slight misalignment of the irons, gets a hit. There is more room for accuracy, faster and easier. That’s self defense shooting.

The irons should disappear (be ignored) when using an RDS. They are harder to ignore when there is an array of four (colored) dots floating in the screen. Plain black irons are better.

So, IMO a Shield 4” 9mm, no thumb safety, typical three dot sights blacked out or replaced, no porting, cut for the Shield RMSc footprint red dot, sets up a useful, rugged, simple self defense gun with improved ballistics, better balance, longer sight radius (compared to 3.1”) especially if it is a Plus.

S&W doesn’t offer it. But you can make one of theirs into yours by investing some money and time for proper sights, RDS cut and optic. This is what S&W should offer. Porting, FO sights and cheap RDS make their offerings into less useful range toys. Too bad they don’t understand that the Shield line is primarily a self defense gun, not a range toy.
 
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Thanks, even though you just un-did my choice which was:

SKU 13254: 3.1", thumb safety, ported barrel and slide (no optics cut or red dot).

I wanted ported barrel w/FO sights. If they are fragile then obviously that would not be a good choice.

How do you feel about the PC ported versions?

FYI I have the Shield 9 v1 bone stock and love it.

I would agree with the others that porting is not necessary and just makes the gun louder and dirtier.

9mm Luger is not really a hot caliber that produces a lot of recoil.

I'd keep it as simple as possible on an SD gun and just practice.
 
I have a 13253 model, and it is the worst gun I own! I have sent it in to be fixed 4 times, and going to call to send it back tomorrow again! Misfiring and roll pins walking out. It is the 4th s&w I bought, if they don’t do something to resolve this problem I will not be getting another s&w!!
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