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Carry with a round in the chamber?
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Rpg
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On of course.
The only reason not to is a lack of gunhandling skill. In that instance, you shouldn’t be carrying a gun.
The only reason not to is a lack of gunhandling skill. In that instance, you shouldn’t be carrying a gun.
bigwheelzip
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For me, it depends on the mechanics involved.
If the trigger pull weight is at least five pounds, then I might leave the safety off, especially if it's hard to operate reliably with my stiff old fingers.
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If the trigger pull weight is at least five pounds, then I might leave the safety off, especially if it's hard to operate reliably with my stiff old fingers.
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FlyFish
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None of my carry pistols has or needs a safety. But if I did carry a gun that had and needed one . . . on, of course.
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Condition 1, chambered round with safety ON. 1911’s and BHP, during draw safety pushed off by habit. Revolvers always full cylinder.
Depends on the pistol. 1911, yes. Shield, no . . .
Don't have the thumb safety on my Shield Plus so not an issue, carry it chambered. My multiple 1911s all get carried "cocked and locked" with a round chambered. My revolvers are 6 shot and all chambers of the cylinder are loaded.
double-dipper
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Yes always carry in condition #1 loaded and ready!
The bad guy isn't going to wait for you to chamber a round! Nor will the bad guy stand in one spot perfectly still like a paper target for you ether! I like lasers.
All guns come with a "safety" its called a trigger. If you don't want the gun to go BOOM don't pull it!
The bad guy isn't going to wait for you to chamber a round! Nor will the bad guy stand in one spot perfectly still like a paper target for you ether! I like lasers.
All guns come with a "safety" its called a trigger. If you don't want the gun to go BOOM don't pull it!
kbm6893
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I wonder if people felt a manual safety was such an impediment in the 75 years before Glocks came along?
Only guns I have without a safety are my revolvers and my DAO semi auto pistols. My two carry guns are the Shield Plus and LC9S. Both carried safety on. I occasionally carry a Bodyguard .380. Such a long trigger that I leave it off once it’s holstered.
Only guns I have without a safety are my revolvers and my DAO semi auto pistols. My two carry guns are the Shield Plus and LC9S. Both carried safety on. I occasionally carry a Bodyguard .380. Such a long trigger that I leave it off once it’s holstered.
Super Trucker
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A striker gun does not need a manual safety.
I carry with one in the chamber but the gun has no manual safety.
"Safety" is between your ears.
I carry with one in the chamber but the gun has no manual safety.
"Safety" is between your ears.
kbm6893
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Why the distinction between a safety not being needed on a striker gun? I wouldn’t own a striker gun without one, and I own several. 5 pound trigger without a hammer to thumb as I holster? Forget about it. I’ll carry a DAO without one but not a striker. And I carried Glocks for years. Just wouldn’t again when there are alternatives.
I figured it wouldn’t be long until we heard “safety is between my ears”. How long until we hear “keep your booger hook off the bang switch”?
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The quickest possible safe presentation of a firearm in the "must shoot to live" portion of a self defense circumstance is paramount.
In the proper holster, there is no reason to apply the thumb safety of a Shield, Ruger LC9 or any of the other modern service/protection semi-auto's that have that feature.
I like to reduce self defense firearm choice to the simplest requirement for its quick operation. No empty chamber carry ever. No thumb safety applied UNLESS the particular pistol requires it for safe carry. Single action 1911's and their ilk must have the thumb safety applied for carry. Always choose a quality holster, with a covered trigger, in good condition, made for the specific pistol being carried.
In the proper holster, there is no reason to apply the thumb safety of a Shield, Ruger LC9 or any of the other modern service/protection semi-auto's that have that feature.
I like to reduce self defense firearm choice to the simplest requirement for its quick operation. No empty chamber carry ever. No thumb safety applied UNLESS the particular pistol requires it for safe carry. Single action 1911's and their ilk must have the thumb safety applied for carry. Always choose a quality holster, with a covered trigger, in good condition, made for the specific pistol being carried.
What kind of gun do you have Jayarby? The answer to your question depends very much on the gun. For concealed carry, if it has a safety, use it. Other uses like some matches where actions are opened and/or flags used, the answer may be different.
Marshal Tom
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Sometimes I have a hard time understanding why this one keeps coming up. All self defense guns should be carried fully loaded. those that carry without a round in the chamber simply lack proper training! Striker fired guns carried in a proper holster do not need a safety. I have one on my Gen 1 Shield, not by choice and have never used it or needed it. Single Action Semi's such as 1911's and BHP's were designed to be carried in condition 1 which is cocked and locked. Most DA/SA semi autos have a heavy enough trigger that they don't require the use of a safety either. I even run into those that refuse to carry a round under the hammer of a DA revolver. the only handguns that should be carried that way are single action revolvers such as Colts and Rugers without the transfer bar alteration. Why limit the number of rounds available to you in an emergency or the speed in which you are able to deploy the weapon by not carrying the gun fully loaded. The simple answer is to receive proper training. End OF RANT !
Except for 1911’s and BHP, I don’t think I have ever carried a gun with safety on. The answer is round in the chamber and loaded for duty carry; finger off the trigger, always assume gun is loaded, and never point it at someone unless you are ready to use and engage. I have trained like that my whole adult life, but especially so the past 23 years
Ranger17
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All I would say is if one uses the safety then better train for that extra ‘step’. I have seen plenty at the range (and I have been guilty) where someone ends up looking at the gun as it didnt fire, finally lowering the safety lever. I would think/assume that with enough repetitions that it becomes second nature.
Adding that it seems many ranges don’t allow drawing from a holster, so that “training with the safety” may end up being at home while dry firing.
Now my .02 may not mean much, I don’t carry often and when I have it is more on family property and not out in public. But when I am at the point of carrying full time I will ensure I am competent with my firearm. Safety or no.
Adding that it seems many ranges don’t allow drawing from a holster, so that “training with the safety” may end up being at home while dry firing.
Now my .02 may not mean much, I don’t carry often and when I have it is more on family property and not out in public. But when I am at the point of carrying full time I will ensure I am competent with my firearm. Safety or no.
Okie21
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When carrying your firearm, it should be as quickly accessible as possible, while also being safely holstered. The more steps it takes to draw, the longer it'll take. The condition of your carry pistol is your choice to make. However and whatever you decide to carry - TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN. Practice your draw as often as you can. You can't do this enough. I carry a striker fired pistol, round in the chamber, with no manual safety. That works for me.
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