jackrabbit000
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Anyone have one of these installed, either a Surefire MB556K, a Lantac Dragon or some other brand? Which one is better?
Muzzle Brakes
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I put this one on mine and it works...Really gets the gun back on target fast and the flash is very little now...Looks great too.
https://www.primaryarms.com/PWS-Flash-Suppressing-Compensator-KAC556-223-p/3kac12a1.htm
https://www.primaryarms.com/PWS-Flash-Suppressing-Compensator-KAC556-223-p/3kac12a1.htm
robkarrob
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I've used a Miculek, on my AR15, and feel it is not needed, unless your doing a lot of rapid fire. The Miculek is fairly inexpensive, but highly rated. I don't see the need on an AR15. Just not a lot of recoil or muzzle rise. Now on a higher caliber guns, like an AR10, with any type of rapid fire, a muzzle break is almost a necessary addition. I have a SJC Titan Comp, by LaRue Tactical, and it really helps when I use the SlideFire stock for rapid fire. The AR10 7.62/.308 caliber puts out double the energy of the 5.56/.223.
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Rastoff
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The answer depends on how you intend to use the gun. If you plan on doing controlled pairs, a muzzle break can dramatically speed the follow shot.
I have an AR with a muzzle break and one without. The difference is dramatic. No, I don't think it's necessary to control recoil, but for muzzle jump it helps a lot. At least it does for me.
I have an AR with a muzzle break and one without. The difference is dramatic. No, I don't think it's necessary to control recoil, but for muzzle jump it helps a lot. At least it does for me.
Rastoff
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If it's just looks, then it makes no difference which you get. By all means, get the one that you like best from an aesthetic point of view.
However, if you don't have a muzzle brake now, you will be grinnin' from ear to ear when you do get one. The difference is dramatic. I have a muzzle brake on one of my ARs and it is much more fun to shoot than the one with just the A2 flash hider.
Here's a pretty good review of both:
I will be adding muzzle brakes to any AR I get in the future.
However, if you don't have a muzzle brake now, you will be grinnin' from ear to ear when you do get one. The difference is dramatic. I have a muzzle brake on one of my ARs and it is much more fun to shoot than the one with just the A2 flash hider.
Here's a pretty good review of both:
I will be adding muzzle brakes to any AR I get in the future.
Precision Armament AFAB is a nice unit, I can watch my hits on orange clays with my scope on 12X, and it is not one of the loud breaks on the market. My brother has the Lantac Dragon, that thing will blast you out pretty good. But it works well, just loud as H***. My neighbor has a Battle Comp, you can feel the percussion in your chest with that thing, and the muzzle seems to dip a little. Just observation on the ones I have tried, very happy with the AFAB, it's a nice piece, very well made.
Rastoff
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Thanks for that info Dino1. I was considering a Battle Comp. Do you not like it?
The Precision Armament AFAB looks great and is a lot less than a Battle Comp.
The Precision Armament AFAB looks great and is a lot less than a Battle Comp.
It's not that I don't like the BC, I feel that I have come across a better piece. The AFAB is a very nice unit, well made, not as loud, and just flat out does what it's designed to do.
I have issues with real loud breaks and comps. I already suffer from tinnitus... ringing in my ears. And now double up on hearing protection. recently at the range my brother got a shot off before I finished putting my ear pro on. The ringing is worse now from that one single shot.
Rastoff
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Just like recoil is different than felt recoil, the relationship between the sound from a regular gun and one with a brake is just about direction.
The reason most muzzle brakes sound louder is because of how it directs the gasses. The gas can't be redirected without redirecting the sound. So, those on the side of the shooter will hear more sound than the shooter. The shooter himself usually won't notice a great difference.
Of course not all muzzle brakes are equal in this respect. Some direct all the gasses forward. This will not increase the sound to the sides at all. The draw back to this design is it's not as effective on fighting muzzle rise. The ones that work really well combating muzzle rise, will direct more sound to the sides.
BadKarmaZeroSix
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I like the Lantac on my friend's, use the AAC 51T Brakeout brake on my 300 and love it, they have one for 5.56 too, but havent used it...i like it being QD point for my suppressor too tho, so that factors into my amount of satisfaction with the AAC
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I installed the Surefire MB556 on an M&P 15 and on my colt...It is amazing...easy to do as well
Surefire 556 Muzzle Brake - YouTube
Surefire 556 Muzzle Brake - YouTube
The AFAB does not have large ports on the sides. Their are small holes in the cuts, and their are some ridges on the inside to direct the gasses. This is not like any other type of break I have ever seen, maybe the KAC comes close. But the KAC is something like $400.00.
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saw577
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Has anyone seen/used the Rainier Arms Compensator (RAC)?? I really like the lines on it. I'm curious about the noise and how well is suppresses the flash.
Rick_A
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There's a Smith Enterprise brake on my 16" and a PWS FSC on a 10.5."
The Smith brake keeps the muzzle steady but doesn't mitigate the recoil much if at all. It suits the gun it's on.
The FSC is similar in keeping the muzzle down but also works quite well as a flash hider as well. It throws sparks but there are no balls of flame.
They are both louder than an A2 FH but not too much from the shooter's perspective.
The Smith brake keeps the muzzle steady but doesn't mitigate the recoil much if at all. It suits the gun it's on.
The FSC is similar in keeping the muzzle down but also works quite well as a flash hider as well. It throws sparks but there are no balls of flame.
They are both louder than an A2 FH but not too much from the shooter's perspective.
Ibmikey
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I have the Rainier RAC SS compensator on a stainless fluted barrel which is excellent to control muzzle rise but the blast and noise are noticeably increased.
saw577
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That sucks. I really wanted that comp. I shoot mostly indoors, so louder doesnt help. Thanks for the input!
Rastoff
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The overall sound is the same. The only thing that changes is direction.
kozmic
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What is this muzzle break of which you speak?
The emperor of our state has deemed them to be too dangerous and way too evil looking. For the safety of his subjects, he has outlawed them.
The emperor of our state has deemed them to be too dangerous and way too evil looking. For the safety of his subjects, he has outlawed them.
Rpg
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Muzzle brakes/ ported barrels are miserable devices in my humble opinion.
If you think you need one, I suspect you need a more manageable firearm to begin with.
I won't have a firearm with one.
The increased muzzle blast, noise and flash make them highly undesirable for any application short of a 'zombie' fantasy. I don't have zombie fantasies
It's your firearm, so you can do what you like.
But I wouldn't give a nickel for a firearm with one
To me, the value of such a firearm is reduced by the cost of getting rid of it plus the original cost of installing it.
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I don't think there are shortcuts to firearm proficiency.
If you think adding gizmos like this are a solution , you haven't identified the problem.
Just my opinion, of course.
If you think you need one, I suspect you need a more manageable firearm to begin with.
I won't have a firearm with one.
The increased muzzle blast, noise and flash make them highly undesirable for any application short of a 'zombie' fantasy. I don't have zombie fantasies
It's your firearm, so you can do what you like.
But I wouldn't give a nickel for a firearm with one
To me, the value of such a firearm is reduced by the cost of getting rid of it plus the original cost of installing it.
.
I don't think there are shortcuts to firearm proficiency.
If you think adding gizmos like this are a solution , you haven't identified the problem.
Just my opinion, of course.
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