Recommendations for BCG

JeffShrugged

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I am interested in getting a stainless steel or nickel boron plated bolt carrier group for my M&P 15 Sport. There seem to be quite a few out there, and some are profanely expensive. Anyone have a recommendation of a good BCG at a reasonable price?

There is nothing wrong with the bolt carrier group I have now, it's fine. I just want something shiny. This is 100% cosmetic, but probably easier to keep clean too.
 
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First, let say that I have never a problem the BCG in my M&P the 15. That said, I did "upgrade " to a WMD coated BCG and while it is probably a little more than you want to spend, it was well worth the extra money and the price, at that time, included a a new hammer also coated. Great product.
 
Hello.

At one point, I was the de-facto forum guinea-pig for aftermarket accessories and mods. I have since slowed down. I own and operate a Fail Zero NiBx complete BCG in my modified 15-Sport. I don't remember how many rounds I've put downrange with it. The pictures below where when it was new. It doesn't look any different now.

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(Older picture. My rifle looks a little different now.)

Pro:

  • Can be run without lube. I tested this for myself. I shot about 500 rounds, no lube on the BCG, without any issues.
  • Easy clean up. Most of the BCG will wipe clean. The bolt tail is where the fouling is concentrated. I wipe it with a dry rag to remove the loose fouling. I then use my thumbnail to get off the fouling stuck to it. The very very very small spots that wont' come loose with a thumbnail nudge get wiped off with a Hoppe's No. 9 wetted patch.

Con:

  • Price.
  • Even though I can run without lube, I still will apply a very very light coat of oil to the BCG rails and the bottom where the hammer contacts as it cycles. While the NiBx coating is is inherently lubricious, my upper receiver and hammer (I run a 2-stage) are not NiBx coated. I put the very light coat of lube on just for peace of mind.

Overall, I like it. Would I do it again? Maybe not. Why?

I've run standard phosphate coated BCG's. I've run them dry, lightly lubed, lubed, to wet. I've run with liquid oils and grease. I've had BCG's that were pretty dirty. Not 4K rounds dirty, but 750 rounds dirty through my home built AR-15. On the rare occasion my BCG failed to cycle while on the range, I solved it with a quick squirt of lube into the ejection port and kept going. (That is after checking for any other failures that if left unattended, would cause a destructive outcome.)

I maintain my home built rifle, but not to the OCD levels of clean.

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To make quick work of cleaning the bolt on this rifle, I use a CAT M4 tool.

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It cleans the firing pin and bolt carrier too.

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Scrape.
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Wipe up.
CatM44.jpg


The CAT M4 tool cost me $35. 1qt of Mobil 1 synthetic cost me $8. This keeps my standard BCG running. The Fail Zero semi-auto complete BCG cost me $185.

If your main concern is prepping for a disaster or situation where you won't have the luxury of a few minutes give your BCG a cursory clean with the CAT M4 and wipedown with Mobil1, then the Fail Zero complete BCG may be worth it to you.

If you are budget conscious, buy a NiBx bolt and install it into your existing carrier. IMO, while the entire NiBx BCG is nice the real advantage to NiBx really only on the bolt.
 
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Those look nice but they may be a little too bling for me. Silver is a tone we are accustomed to in the gun world. Gold, not so much.

How are the Aim BCGs, or the Spikes? Love the price on those Ares.
 
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Currently using a WMD Nickel Boron M16 BGC and have been very please with it - nothing wrong with the Smith (MicroBest) BCG, but wanted to try a FA NB. Shiny at first but turns sort of a haze grey, but still looks good, esp if you don't want the bling ;).

Carpenter Steel, Shot Peened/MPI tested, well staked, all the usual goodies... and a decent price as well - got mine from JobBobsOutfitters...

https://www.wmdguns.com/our-products/bcgs

WMD Guns Nickel Boron X Bolt Carrier Group - NIBXBCG


S&W also offers a Heavy (FA/M16) BCG w/o any fancy coatings for those that want a FA/M16 BCG with the normal finish - Bud's Police Suppy used to carry them but since they merged with the main Bud's site I don't see it there anymore, but you can order direct from S&W I'm sure, as well as several other online sellers.
 
Thanks for all the recommendations. After looking at all the options I kind of went a completely different direction and got a chrome Daniel Defense bolt carrier group. I also got one of those CAT M4 tools, those things are slick.
 
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Hello.

At one point, I was the de-facto forum guinea-pig for aftermarket accessories and mods. I have since slowed down. I own and operate a Fail Zero NiBx complete BCG in my modified 15-Sport. I don't remember how many rounds I've put downrange with it. The pictures below where when it was new. It doesn't look any different now.

3032e5ef-c827-4b33-a1a3-d681c38e4198_zps6770aa3b.jpg


0f093352-3b16-4d54-9e77-4564c278944e_zps476ed8c0.jpg


897fddbb-1a67-4957-8829-b76b4720bcc7_zps4bac9f93.jpg

(Older picture. My rifle looks a little different now.)

Pro:

  • Can be run without lube. I tested this for myself. I shot about 500 rounds, no lube on the BCG, without any issues.
  • Easy clean up. Most of the BCG will wipe clean. The bolt tail is where the fouling is concentrated. I wipe it with a dry rag to remove the loose fouling. I then use my thumbnail to get off the fouling stuck to it. The very very very small spots that wont' come loose with a thumbnail nudge get wiped off with a Hoppe's No. 9 wetted patch.

Con:

  • Price.
  • Even though I can run without lube, I still will apply a very very light coat of oil to the BCG rails and the bottom where the hammer contacts as it cycles. While the NiBx coating is is inherently lubricious, my upper receiver and hammer (I run a 2-stage) are not NiBx coated. I put the very light coat of lube on just for peace of mind.

Overall, I like it. Would I do it again? Maybe not. Why?

I've run standard phosphate coated BCG's. I've run them dry, lightly lubed, lubed, to wet. I've run with liquid oils and grease. I've had BCG's that were pretty dirty. Not 4K rounds dirty, but 750 rounds dirty through my home built AR-15. On the rare occasion my BCG failed to cycle while on the range, I solved it with a quick squirt of lube into the ejection port and kept going. (That is after checking for any other failures that if left unattended, would cause a destructive outcome.)

I maintain my home built rifle, but not to the OCD levels of clean.

b52fce80-7340-4159-9d6c-9d7c105290f7_zps9b31d0d3.jpg


To make quick work of cleaning the bolt on this rifle, I use a CAT M4 tool.

CatM41.jpg


CatM42.jpg


It cleans the firing pin and bolt carrier too.

CATM45.jpg


Scrape.
CatM43.jpg


Wipe up.
CatM44.jpg


The CAT M4 tool cost me $35. 1qt of Mobil 1 synthetic cost me $8. This keeps my standard BCG running. The Fail Zero semi-auto complete BCG cost me $185.

If your main concern is prepping for a disaster or situation where you won't have the luxury of a few minutes give your BCG a cursory clean with the CAT M4 and wipedown with Mobil1, then the Fail Zero complete BCG may be worth it to you.

If you are budget conscious, buy a NiBx bolt and install it into your existing carrier. IMO, while the entire NiBx BCG is nice the real advantage to NiBx really only on the bolt.

JaPes,

That's a nice home built! Looks like everything you need in an AR. Nice job!
 
That is very odd, I never need to clean or lube my bolt or carrier...

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Let's see what happens when your piston stop sh*ts the bed! :)

I can't afford a piston gun yet but one day......

Anyone have any input on a good low mass BCG?
 
I have several of the Aim ni boron BCG's with many hundreds of rounds on them. The $99 one looks like new where one of the $139 units has discolored badly after a super hot firing session.....still works flawlessly just not as pretty.
 
I agree that unless your current BCG is causing problems, the only reason to upgrade is for "BLING", because if it works, then it doesn't need replacement. The manufacturers can give you lots of reasons to buy their products, smoother operation, less friction, less cleaning, etc., but the test is does it function any better. Function in an AR means does the BCG consistently operate as designed, load, lock, fire, extract, eject, and reload the next round over and over without malfunction.

Bob
 
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