Bullet stuck in barrel, failure to battery. Help

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I have multiple failure to battery malfunctions. The live round will be physically stuck in the barrel and the gun will be locked. It won’t fire. I have to grab the slide with a death grip, and smack the handle to get it loose. After that the round will be stuck and I have to use pliers to remove it from the chamber.

Ammo used is Winchester, federal brass and aluminum, tul ammo steel case, Remington, several reloads. It happens with any ammo so I’m almost 100% it has to do with the manufacturing of the gun.

When I load a mag the slide is already locked open, I’ll use the slide release to let it chamber, once I let go there will be about 1/10 or so of inch left from fully being forward, I’ve tried smacking it forward but it won’t budge and I’m afraid if I do it any harder I’ll set a round off.

I have 2 mags so I doubt it’s the mag since it does it to both of them

What could possibly cause this? Everything is stock no modifications.

There are a few instances where I can get a few shots off, I recall shooting a full mag awhile ago but then the issue happened and I just went home.

The gun has already been sent to s&w before for the same issue, they said they replaced the firing pin and it passed a field test, but I think they either lied or there’s something I’m missing like what exact ammo they are using.

Tl;dr - gun jams, live round stuck in barrel, believe it’s not ammo related, what do? New barrel time?
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I would suspect an improper chamber depth (.754") or diameter, damage to the chamber itself, damage to the breechface or extractor, or accumulated dirt/shooting debris. If these conditions have been ruled out, you should contact S&W for a return label.
 
What happens if you hand cycle the action with purpose . . . ? By this, I mean inserting a loaded magazine, and then working the slide vigorously to load and eject the rounds in the magazine . . .

Edit: Have you had somebody else shoot it?
 
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If you can safely remove all rounds from the pistol, break it down for cleaning. (If you can't remove all ammo, take it to a gunsmith.) Remove the slide from the frame, take the barrel out and give the barrel and chamber a cleaning down to the metal.

Hold the barrel with the muzzle pointed straight down and drop new FACTORY rounds from different manufacturers into the chamber. Do they all drop straight in and end up with the rim of the cartridge even with the back edge of the hood of the chamber? If so, tip the muzzle of the barrel up. Do they all drop free out of the chamber? (This is a way to do a cheap chamber check using your chamber without having a chamber gauge.)

If you do the same test on another pistol and if the rounds drop into and out of the chamber, your barrel has a problem.

Take the following with a grain of salt. From what you describe, (from a thousand miles away, over the Internet, and me never seeing your pistol, ;)) it sounds like you have a short chamber or no leade in the bore. (leade, not lead)
 
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Muss Muggins said:
What happens if you hand cycle the action with purpose . . . ? By this, I mean inserting a loaded magazine, and then working the slide vigorously to load and eject the rounds in the magazine . . .

Edit: Have you had somebody else shoot it?
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It won’t cycle in the first bullet, the problem will instantly happen. Load mag, let slide lever go, gun is now stuck. Have to hold slide and smack it loose. Had the employees at the range give it a go. Sometimes they get 1 round off the. Stuck. They said they’ve never seen it happen and even asked me to get the slide open so they could see what’s happening.
 
I got nuthin' else . . .

Kt123 said:
It won’t cycle in the first bullet, the problem will instantly happen. Load mag, let slide lever go, gun is now stuck. Have to hold slide and smack it loose. Had the employees at the range give it a go. Sometimes they get 1 round off the. Stuck. They said they’ve never seen it happen and even asked me to get the slide open so they could see what’s happening.
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CA Escapee said:
If you can safely remove all rounds from the pistol, break it down for cleaning. (If you can't remove all ammo, take it to a gunsmith.) Remove the slide from the frame, take the barrel out and give the barrel and chamber a cleaning down to the metal.

Hold the barrel with the muzzle pointed straight down and drop new FACTORY rounds from different manufacturers into the chamber. Do they all drop straight in and end up with the rim of the cartridge even with the back edge of the hood of the chamber? If so, tip the muzzle of the barrel up. Do they all drop free out of the chamber? (This is a way to do a cheap chamber check using your chamber without having a chamber gauge.)

If you do the same test on another pistol and if the rounds drop into and out of the chamber, your barrel has a problem.

Take the following with a grain of salt. From what you describe, (from a thousand miles away, over the Internet, and me never seeing your pistol, ;)) it sounds like you have a short chamber or no leade in the bore. (leade, not lead)
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I will test that out later. So you want me to drop a bullet into the chamber, but not thru magazine? Correct?
 
armorer951 said:
I would suspect an improper chamber depth (.754") or diameter, damage to the chamber itself, damage to the breechface or extractor, or accumulated dirt/shooting debris. If these conditions have been ruled out, you should contact S&W for a return label.
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I will check the extractor when I get home from work . From the few shots that I do get to go off it does seem a little weak when they come out after being ejected, using 115gr
 
Take the barrel out and drop a bullet in. It should wiggle a little. That should make the barrel ok. The chamber may be under size. I bought a 52-1 that did that. My fix was to shoot a .356 bullet. Lead can build up and hard to see. Let us know the fix. I have used a small screwdriver to see if I can scrape lead or crud. It wont scratch the barrel.
 
Kt123 said:
I will test that out later. So you want me to drop a bullet into the chamber, but not thru magazine? Correct?
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Yes. Here’s an M&P barrel that I’ve dropped a loaded Federal round into the chamber from 1/2” above. Its dropped all the way into the chamber and the rim is just below the top of the hood of the chamber. The hood is to the left of the case. When I tip the barrel over the round drops right out.

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If the round sticks up above the hood, that might be preventing your pistol from going into battery.

A pistol that’s fired out of battery can be a dangerous thing. There’s enough pressure in the chamber when the gun is fired that it can burst the case open, crack and break the chamber, slide, frame, and even damage your hand. I’d certainly get the gun checked out by a gunsmith or S&W again.
 
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Kt123 said:
I will check the extractor when I get home from work . From the few shots that I do get to go off it does seem a little weak when they come out after being ejected, using 115gr
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The cases may be jammed into the chamber/leade making the slide/extractor work overtime to rip the case out of the chamber.
 
This brings back memories of our Model 1911 club. A member had a Taurus 1911 we named "problem du jour", it also had another name I won't post. No sooner was the current problem fixed and it would come up with another problem.
 
Steel case? Loading 9mm Makarov in a .380?? Something fishy going on. Like to know what the results of the plunk test are.
 
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