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I would worry that the repeated firing would hammer the barrel and damage the rifling or throat of the parent 10mm barrel. Then due to the very thin structure of the sleeve barrel it may become warped or distorted. Pressures of 10mm @ 37,500 psi and 357Sig @ 40,000psi and even the 9x25Dillon which doen't have a SAAMI rating maybe hitting the 42,000 to 44,000 psi levels...
I think I will just stay with the full barrel specific for the cartridge to work with, insuring full ballistic performance! I work at the upper limits of performance with the 10mm, 40S&W, 357Sig and 9x25Dillon, so the pressures and velocities would be my concerns usin a sleeve type unit... Remeber shotguns are lower pressure and smooth bore as compared to the percision rifled barrels.
BM1, has his hands full with the current orders and getting time on the CNC machines has possed challenges...
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The difference, as I see it, is you're comparing a low pressure round (shotgun) to a high pressure round (357 Sig), but using the same basic concept for both.
The fit of the barrel liner would have to be so tight as to make it hard to install and remove. The difference between a .400" diameter bore and a .356" diameter bore is only .044", which means the maximum the barrel liner walls could be is .022", which doesn't leave any room for clearance between the inside diameter of the 10mm barrel and the outside diameter of the 357 Sig barrel.
The other problem is the shoulder of the case. Despite what you read about the 357 Sig round headspacing on the case mouth, there is the second datum point on the shoulder to consider. If the shoulder of the case contacts the shoulder of the chamber insert too soon, the slide will be held out of battery. At the opposite end, if the shoulder of the chamber is too far forward, the case shoulder will blow out to match the chamber. This probably wouldn't result in a case rupture, but brass fired in that chamber would be excessively worked and would fail prematurely, in my opinion.
The idea is novel, but I just think it's not applicable in this case.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah, I started to think the differences in bore diam. were way to thin after I wrote it. I think it would work if the bore size difference was greater. I don't have any idea how much different they would need to be.
Oh well, that's what I get for typing on my smart phone while eating my lunch. Too many ideas and not enough thought. Hehe.
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Bumped...Hope 2012 will provide BM1 time to move ahead with this project!
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I'll second that!
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Off Topic.
While we're waiting for production to start on the .40S&W/10mm conversion barrels, why not begin planning a .22TCM conversion for our 5906's, etc.
Happy holidays!
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Hey All,
I've been out of touch (State) for a while now.
Will "Git-er-Done" in 2012.
Best wishes for the New Year,
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Sounds good.
Happy New Year,
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It's 2012... just playing.
Can't wait for the conversions. I just bought a 5-inch M&P40 Pro and a M&P40 Compact (first dedicated .40 pistols I've owned), but going to hold off on .357 SIG barrels until I get that for the 1006. Figured I'd try it out on one gun, and if I like the round, I'll pick up the M&P barrels afterwards.
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If you could ship these to Canada you could sell quite a few.
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It's still a work in progress, they are just sitting there waiting for some open machine time and me.
BUT,
It is all on hold for now, there are some different priorities in my life right now.
Keep the faith, they will get completed.
I have allot invested in this.
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Thx BM1 for the update. We're waiting patiently.
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No problem.
I went through my emails just before that post, and saw the one I sent, so figured I'd bump up the thread. Hope everything is well.
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It's still a work in progress, they are just sitting there waiting for some open machine time and me.
BUT,
It is all on hold for now, there are some different priorities in my life right now.
Keep the faith, they will get completed.
I have allot invested in this.
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Thanks for the update! No rush for me, the only bad thing is if my 10xx family grows Hope things are going well for you.
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Sounds Great
I need .40 and .357 Sig barrels for 1076 and 1006. Make them about $150 each and match quality and you'll sell a ton.
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40 and 357 barrels
I would like 40 and 357 barrels to fit the 1006 and the 1066.Thats 4 barrels total
I would like option#2 and I will do final fitting . If they are 225 each, thats ok with me
please give me instructions on what info you neeed from me
or a link to your web site
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Hello Harris1, et all,
All the barrels that are in process were all spoken for at the time.
Things have come to a halt due to personal issues.
115 barrels are in process and partially completed.
When I get back to working on them,
I will contact those folks that are on my list and see who are still interested in them
and your position on the waiting list will move up accordingly.
Sorry for the delay.
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Any chance any of these conversion barrels available or anymore being made?
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Put me on waiting list
A week or so ago, I sent an email and PM to be put on the waiting list for a 40 barrel for my 1006 should someone fall off the distribution list. I haven't heard a reply, but assume you got them. Thanks
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BM1: Just checking to see if I'm still on your list? I haven't heard anything for a very long time. Thanks.
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I will pay $225 for a drop in .40 cal 5" barrel for a 1006 for a 4.25" for a 1076. I would also purchase a 4066 of I could drop in a 357Sig barrel.
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BM1 is out of town at the moment, as of early Nov. He did not have an expected date of return.
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I just stumbled across this thread through a Google search. I would like a 40 barrel for my 1006 should production ever resume.
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barrel conversions
Just stumbled on this too, I would be interested in a 9x25 dillon conversion for my 4006TSW of my 1006
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40 S&W barrel for S&W 1006
I know this is an old thread but does anyone know where I might find a 40 S&W barrel for my newly acquired S&W 1006. I just recently learned about the S&W Gen III's and I think they are the cat's meow!
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Whenever this thread gets a bump, I get interested in a .357 Sig 4006 barrel. So what's up? Are they available yet?
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Whenever this thread gets a bump, I get interested in a .357 Sig 4006 barrel. So what's up? Are they available yet?
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If it ever happens let me know. I do think this is just a pink Unicorn . That is one nice caliber that I would jump on for my 4006tsw but I'll just have to be content with the P229.
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You got me excited , but I see it's just a false alarm.......
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I would like a 357 Sig barrel for a 4006 if you get around to making them.
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Count me in for a drop-in .40 for my 1006.
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Hello Harris1, et all,
All the barrels that are in process were all spoken for at the time.
Things have come to a halt due to personal issues.
115 barrels are in process and partially completed.
When I get back to working on them,
I will contact those folks that are on my list and see who are still interested in them
and your position on the waiting list will move up accordingly.
Sorry for the delay.
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As this was written in July 2012, I dont think BM1 is back into the project. Please dont stir the pot as if and when he is ready he will announce it here on the forum. Lets all hope and pray that his personal issues work out to his satisfaction
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Anyone interested ?
Many of you know me through this great forum and that I have been heavily involved with the .356 TSW cartridge.
Posting the many conversions that I have worked with, having great success and enjoying the testing and evaluation of this great round.
6906 in .356 TSW, Marlin Camp-9/.356 TSW, New Project - Ruger PC4/.357 SIG
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My retirement from Aerospace Machining with 30+ years experience in many, many types of manufacturing processes has benefited me a great deal in my “odd” endeavors.
I am now contemplating the development and manufacturing of drop-in/semi-drop-in replacement barrels for all of us that have been thinking how nice it would be to have the advantages of shooting the .40 S&W and .357 SIG from out 10XX series handguns.
The first “Test Run” would probably be a lot size of 25-50 of each barrel (depending on the demand?) to accommodate the two different calibers in the two different barrel lengths, 5.00” and 4.25” with retrospect to the 1006, 1026, 1046 and the 1066, 1076 and 1086.
Wolff Gun Springs has a variety of replacement springs to taylor the recoil impulse and brass ejection to your liking.
Wolff lists the stock spring for the 1006, 1026 and 1046 @ 18#’s
They show 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22 and 24#’s
Also the stock spring for the 1066, 1076 and 1086 @ 17#’s
They show 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 22#’s
I am hoping to start the development after the first of the year.
If this dream works out I would like to expand to the 4013 style and 40XX series with .357 SIG barrels.
But that would be a little ways away at this point.
Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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I would love a 357 barrel for my 4006.
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When I decide that I need to fire a round that performs less well.
Than the one that my 1006s and my1066 were made to fire. I will be sure to get in touch with you.
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I would be interested in a barrel for my 1026 in 9mm or .357
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How did this ever work out? I've been reading about the 4013/4053 conversion to 10mm and I am intrigued.
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I don’t think this project ever really got going.
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How did this ever work out? I've been reading about the 4013/4053 conversion to 10mm and I am intrigued.
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I was wondering the same thing :O)
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How about we tie a big fat padlock on this dumb thread rather than seeing it reappear every year with not even one molecule of new information?
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Good luck.....
I like anything that keeps third gens shooting.
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Hey BM1, I would definetly be interested! I have a 4006 and wouldn't mind "spicing it up" so to speak with a .357 SIG barrel!
So when you get this project up and running I'd appreciate a PM.
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Although the OP checks in here occasionally, he has not posted anything since 2015, so consider this idea dead. If something changes, he can contact one of the mods to reopen this thread or start a new one.
Sorry to all those with hopes of seeing this turn into something.
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