ATTN. 10XX Auto Owners, Production Has Started - .40 S&W & .357 SIG Barrels

Anyone interested ?

Many of you know me through this great forum and that I have been heavily involved with the .356 TSW cartridge.
Posting the many conversions that I have worked with, having great success and enjoying the testing and evaluation of this great round.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-...-9-356-tsw-new-project-ruger-pc4-357-sig.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/149321-making-356-tsw-other-cartridges-problem-solved.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/131869-356-tsw-reloads.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-...tandard-9-m-m-into-356-tsw.html#post135566867

http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/75932-356tsw-brass-group-buy.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/wanted-buy/67486-wtb-s-w-6906-barrel-p-n-236940000-found-one.html

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-...-3566-356tsw-hope-i-did-right-thing-here.html

My retirement from Aerospace Machining with 30+ years experience in many, many types of manufacturing processes has benefited me a great deal in my “odd” endeavors.

I am now contemplating the development and manufacturing of drop-in/semi-drop-in replacement barrels for all of us that have been thinking how nice it would be to have the advantages of shooting the .40 S&W and .357 SIG from out 10XX series handguns.
The first “Test Run” would probably be a lot size of 25-50 of each barrel (depending on the demand?) to accommodate the two different calibers in the two different barrel lengths, 5.00” and 4.25” with retrospect to the 1006, 1026, 1046 and the 1066, 1076 and 1086.

Wolff Gun Springs has a variety of replacement springs to taylor the recoil impulse and brass ejection to your liking.

Wolff lists the stock spring for the 1006, 1026 and 1046 @ 18#’s
They show 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22 and 24#’s

Also the stock spring for the 1066, 1076 and 1086 @ 17#’s
They show 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 22#’s

I am hoping to start the development after the first of the year.

If this dream works out I would like to expand to the 4013 style and 40XX series with .357 SIG barrels.
But that would be a little ways away at this point.

Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
BM1

Hey BM1, I would definetly be interested! I have a 4006 and wouldn't mind "spicing it up" so to speak with a .357 SIG barrel!
So when you get this project up and running I'd appreciate a PM.
Happy Holidays, Dale

Assuming it was affordable, I would definately be interested in a .40 bbl for a 1006. Might be interested in a .40 bbl for a 1076 as well.

Another excuse for buying a new pistol

i'm interested in barrels for the 1076 and 4006.

Greetings and Merry Christmas.

I have a 1086 that is a keeper. I would not mind having a drop in barrel
for .40 S&W ctg. if priced in the $100. range.
I have little experience with such things but, have done some
1911 barrel swapping in the past.

I do not have much interest in the 357 sig ctg. but would gladly experiment with a barrel in my 1086 if asked to.

Regards
Allen Frame

I'd love a 357SIG barrel for a 4013TSW or 4006TSW.

Count me in for one each 5" and 4.25"!!!

Tom

More information added

Adding a note here, as I mentioned before;
I am a retired Aerospace CAD/CAM/CNC Manufacturing Engineer/Plant Manager.

All barrels would be manufactured on CNC Turning Centers (Lathes) and CNC Machining Centers (Mills)
To the latest ANSI/SAAMI Chamber Specifications and standard SAE and JIS thread specifications.
Included would be Centerless Grinding operations and Glass Bead Blast surface finishing, like the satin factory finish.
All barrels would be engraved to identify the calibers.

All of which means MATCH GRADE Barrel Tolerances.
Not what comes out the factory or mass production shops as some of us have experienced many times.

I neglected to mention that there is the opportunity to have your barrel threaded here also, with your choice of thread.
The friend of mine that I am working with on this project has a CNC manufacturing facility and the FFL license to manufacture firearms and also silencers.
We have not finalized which grade of steel we are going to produce the barrels out of yet.
I'm thinking it will either be 410, 416 SS or we could opt for a stronger 4140 Chrome Moly Steel but it would be delivered to you in the “White” state, not blued.

I am venturing into this because it is something that I have always wanted to do this with my 10XX series firearms and
I love to tinker in different caliber interchangeabilities as some of you may already know.
I'll just make many more to share.....................
The cost is to be determined based on covering the material and production costs.
The factory charges about $125 for a stock replacement barrel when they are in stock, Numrich gets around $133.35 and again, when they are in stock.
They will be more expensive than a factory replacement barrel from Smith and Wesson, this I can say with certainty, as I'm sure you all know.
What we are planning on manufacturing is a barrel that would be far superior to the barrel manufactures that I see out there pedaling their goods at prices between $150.00 and $300.00+

Hey, I've paid $80 to $130 for grips ranging from modified factory plastic to exotic wood all for the looks and of course also the feel.
These barrels will be precision machined steel and are specifically designed to enhance the range of functionality of your gun [shooting ammo], cheaper and/or faster/more accurate rounds.

Another additional note;
We are looking at also producing extended slide stops for the many different frame widths of the third gens and also extended magazine release buttons and a button to replace the decocking lever on the right side of the ambi safety/decocking levers.

As I mentioned before, this is all in the early stages of the whole process.
Please be patient.
I am happy that I have been overwhelmed with responses I have received. but it takes allot of time to go through the emails and respond.
Please use this email, [email protected] for any and all questions on this endeavor.
(Bad_Man_One) not this (Bad Man One)
You need to use the underbars between the words (not spaces) that get deleted by the computer underlining it as an email address.

Thank you all again and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Best regards,
Bad_Man_One

I would love to see renewed interest in the aftermarket for the 3rd Generation S&W pistols. Anything you make for it will be much appreciated I'm sure.

I'd love a .357 Sig barrel for a 1006.

Depending on the final price, I would be in for a barrel for my 1076.

I'd be in for a .357 SIG and .40 barrel for the 1006... more emphasis on the .40, but would snatch up a .357 one, as well. Would prefer stainless, especially since I'm planning on bead-blasting my 1006 sometime in the future. I jumped on the BerettaForum’s SGS compensator project, and definitely would be up for adding this to my collection.

I remember from another 10mm conversion thread that there was talk about taking .357 barrels and turning them into 9x25mm Dillon. I believe DoubleTap makes a few different loadings for the Dillon, so it might be another one to look at. Figuring that two barrels would probably already put me into debt, I might buy a third for 9x25mm Dillon, if it were an option.

I know a few other 10mm owners on the various forums, which I’ll point them to this thread. Not sure if you are a part of 10mmTalk, but if this does get closer to production, I'm sure you'll get a good amount of interest there. If you are not a member, I can link this thread to them, but I do remember at least two other threads that didn’t lead anywhere, so some are a little weary on this subject.

Happy Holidays.

I would get a .40 barrel for a 1006 and maybe a 357 sig also...

I'd be interested in both a .40 and 357 Sig barrel for my 1006. Would the 10MM mags need to modded also, or will they work with the new barrels?

Pete

I think I would also be interested in a .40 barrel for a 1006. I am curious though, what magazines would work to feed .40 in a 1006? Would 4006 magazines work?

For conversions like that, you would use standard magazines.

The .40 round is a shortened 10mm, so it will fit in the magazine with some space to spare. The .357 would be similar since it uses a bottlenecked .40 casing. Glock 20 conversions work the same way, and back when .40 1006 barrels were produced, that is how they were ran.

The magazines would not need to be modified. Also, 4006 magazine would not work, since they are double-stacked and the 10mm magazines are single-stacked.

So at one point in time there were .40 barrels made for a 1006? Were they factory made?

I would be interested in a 40S&W barrel for a 1006 depending on price. $200ish range would be good, while $400 would be too rich for my blood. Definitely prefer for it NOT to be in the white.

I would be interested in a 357 Sig barrel for a 4006, plus a 357 Sig barrel for a 1006.

I've got the reamer for 9x25 Dillon, so if I don't like the barrel for the 1006, I'll just convert it to 9x25.

Hope this helps.

Fred