Just installed a Techna belt clip on BG380. (Pic inside) Thoughts?

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Just had the Techna belt clip installed on my bodyguard 380. I wanted something that was still very sleek, no bulk, that I could put in my waistband as well as still put in my pocket or still use my DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster. I think I found my answer. The Techna belt clip was the answer to all of this. The fit is PERFECT! Took all of about 3 minutes to install. I barley know I even wearing it in my waistband and is comfortable to move, walk, and sit. Well worth the $25.95 with free shipping. Link below. What do you all think?

Belt Clip for s w Bodyguard Right Side Techna Clip Concealed Carry Clip | eBay



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I know most people don't carry like this, but I don't leave one in the barrel and I keep mine on safety
 
crofoot629 said:
Well if you carry in Condition 3 it looks good to go.

Emory
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I've heard of this before, I take it there are 3 conditions?

1 = loaded in the barrel safety off?

2 = loaded in the barrel safety on?

3 = not loaded in barrel and safety on?
 
DeJays Saleen said:
I've heard of this before, I take it there are 3 conditions?

1 = loaded in the barrel safety off?

2 = loaded in the barrel safety on?

3 = not loaded in barrel and safety on?
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It depends on the gun I think.

Most of mine don't have a safety so they can't be pigeonholed into those conditions. And I can't cock a DA gun like you could a SA gun, so how does that fit?

I think condition one is ready to fire by pulling the trigger.
Condition two would be ready to fire after releasing the safety (if you have one).
Condition 3 would mean no bullet in the chamber.
Condition 4 would mean no bullets in the gun at all.

Condition 327 is how Illinois wants me to have my gun when I drive through their state: Unloaded, disassembled, magazines on a flight to Kansas, barrel plugged with JB Weld, no two pieces within 10 feet of each other, locked in the trunk in a safe with the key mailed ahead to my destination, and no ammunition on me, in the vehicle or charged on my credit card within the last 6 months. :mad:
 
DeJays Saleen said:
I've heard of this before, I take it there are 3 conditions?

1 = loaded in the barrel safety off?

2 = loaded in the barrel safety on?

3 = not loaded in barrel and safety on?
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I think the terminology comes from Jeff Cooper and is most closely or easily related to the 1911.

1)Gun fully loaded, round chambered, cocked and locked (safety on).

2) round chambered and hammer on half cock.

3) loaded magazine in gun, chamber empty, safety off.

4) gun unloaded.

With 1911's the excepted method of carry is condition 1.
Condition 2 dangerous and stupid.
Condition 3 slow and not needed with proper holster.
Condition 4 speaks for itself.

With modern handguns carried for self defense condition 1 is the norm. For a revolver this simply equates to a loaded pistol, hammer down on loaded chamber.
Condition 1 for a Glock is fully loaded with a round in the chamber.

Hope this Helps.

Emory
 
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DeJays Saleen said:
Just had the Techna belt clip installed on my bodyguard 380. I wanted something that was still very sleek, no bulk, that I could put in my waistband as well as still put in my pocket or still use my DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster. I think I found my answer. The Techna belt clip was the answer to all of this. The fit is PERFECT! Took all of about 3 minutes to install. I barley know I even wearing it in my waistband and is comfortable to move, walk, and sit. Well worth the $25.95 with free shipping. Link below. What do you all think?

Belt Clip for s w Bodyguard Right Side Techna Clip Concealed Carry Clip | eBay



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I do not like to rain on parades, but I am not a fan of belt clips on pistols, such as the one pictured or the similar device for the Kel-Tec. I don't really like them on pocket knives either, for that matter.

These pistols are so small, there is no real reason not to use a pocket holster.

I suppose if you go around in these flannel pajama pants like I see people doing so much, and if they don't have pockets, then I suppose you could clip it in the waistband, but that is not a need that I have, because I do not wear pajamas out in public like many people these days. :)

I am no more concerned about the exposed trigger on the BG380 than I would be on a revolver. The trigger pull on the BG380 is looooonnnnggg and heavy, so I do not see any real chance of it "going off" just because the trigger guard is not covered.

It is just that I do not have a need for this device. If you do, and it suits your needs, and it works for you, then by all means, use it if it encourages you to carry. That is what we need - more people who actually carry. Good show! :)
 
Lost Lake said:
It depends on the gun I think.
Condition 327 is how Illinois wants me to have my gun when I drive through their state: Unloaded, disassembled, magazines on a flight to Kansas, barrel plugged with JB Weld, no two pieces within 10 feet of each other, locked in the trunk in a safe with the key mailed ahead to my destination, and no ammunition on me, in the vehicle or charged on my credit card within the last 6 months. :mad:
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L M F A O !!!!
 
crofoot629 said:
I think the terminology comes from Jeff Cooper and is most closely or easily related to the 1911.

1)Gun fully loaded, round chambered, cocked and locked (safety on).

2) round chambered and hammer on half cock.

3) loaded magazine in gun, chamber empty, safety off.

4) gun unloaded.

With 1911's the excepted method of carry is condition 1.
Condition 2 dangerous and stupid.
Condition 3 slow and not needed with proper holster.
Condition 4 speaks for itself.

With modern handguns carried for self defense condition 1 is the norm. For a revolver this simply equates to a loaded pistol, hammer down on loaded chamber.
Condition 1 for a Glock is fully loaded with a round in the chamber.

Hope this Helps.

Emory
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This post incorrectly describes Condition 2 as being round in chamber with hammer "on half cock."

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT CORRECT.

Condition 2 is full magazine, round in chamber and hammer fully lowered all the way down.

I definitely agree with crofoot629's descripton of Condition 2 as "dangerous and stupid." Here is why:

A 1911 is NEVER to be intentionally put on half cock. Read the Colt manuals. The purpose of the half cock notch is to stop hammer fall in the event of failure of the full cock engagement or in the event the hammer "slips" (oops) when either manually cocking or attempting to decock. A very slight jar or bump to the hammer will shear the half cock notch. The pistol WILL fire if the hammer falls from half cock.

This is why Colt has gotten away from a half cock notch when Colt introduced the Series 80. Colt's hammers now have a "safety shelf" which is almost completely in the hammer down position. It serves the same purpose as the half cock notch - to arrest hammer fall in the event of failure of the full cock engagement or in the even the hammer slips during manipulation. However, if the Colt hammer falls from the safety shelf, there is not enough power to overcome the firing pin spring and the loaded pistol will not fire even if the firing pin safety should fail.

Here are Jeff Cooper's actual conditions of readiness (there are 5, not 4):

Condition Four: Chamber and magazine empty, hammer down
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in the pistol, hammer down (also referred to as "half-loaded")
Condition Two: Round in chamber, full magazine in the pistol, hammer down
Condition One: Round in chamber, full magazine in the pistol, hammer fully cocked, safety on.
Condition Zero: Round chambered, full magazine in the pistol, hammer fully cocked, safety off.
 
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shawn mccarver said:
I do not like to rain on parades, but I am not a fan of belt clips on pistols, such as the one pictured or the similar device for the Kel-Tec. I don't really like them on pocket knives either, for that matter.

These pistols are so small, there is no real reason not to use a pocket holster.

I suppose if you go around in these flannel pajama pants like I see people doing so much, and if they don't have pockets, then I suppose you could clip it in the waistband, but that is not a need that I have, because I do not wear pajamas out in public like many people these days. :)

I am no more concerned about the exposed trigger on the BG380 than I would be on a revolver. The trigger pull on the BG380 is looooonnnnggg and heavy, so I do not see any real chance of it "going off" just because the trigger guard is not covered.

It is just that I do not have a need for this device. If you do, and it suits your needs, and it works for you, then by all means, use it if it encourages you to carry. That is what we need - more people who actually carry. Good show! :)
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Shawn I wanted the best of both worlds. I wanted to be able to carry the gun in my waist band with the belt clip but I still wanted a clip to where I could still fit in my pocket holster. I have the De Santis Nemesis Pocket holster (which i love) and this belt clip works great with it. I can have the belt clip fit inside the holster, or have the clip on the outside of the holster (see pics below). So now I have 2 different ways of concealing this hand gun, In my pocket still, or in my waist band. Love it.



 
shawn mccarver said:
This post incorrectly describes Condition 2 as being round in chamber with hammer "on half cock."

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT CORRECT.

Condition 2 is full magazine, round in chamber and hammer fully lowered all the way down.

I definitely agree with crofoot629's descripton of Condition 2 as "dangerous and stupid." Here is why:

A 1911 is NEVER to be intentionally put on half cock. Read the Colt manuals. The purpose of the half cock notch is to stop hammer fall in the event of failure of the full cock engagement or in the event the hammer "slips" (oops) when either manually cocking or attempting to decock. A very slight jar or bump to the hammer will shear the half cock notch. The pistol WILL fire if the hammer falls from half cock.

This is why Colt has gotten away from a half cock notch when Colt introduced the Series 80. Colt's hammers now have a "safety shelf" which is almost completely in the hammer down position. It serves the same purpose as the half cock notch - to arrest hammer fall in the event of failure of the full cock engagement or in the even the hammer slips during manipulation. However, if the Colt hammer falls from the safety shelf, there is not enough power to overcome the firing pin spring and the loaded pistol will not fire even if the firing pin safety should fail.

Here are Jeff Cooper's actual conditions of readiness (there are 5, not 4):

Condition Four: Chamber and magazine empty, hammer down
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in the pistol, hammer down (also referred to as "half-loaded")
Condition Two: Round in chamber, full magazine in the pistol, hammer down
Condition One: Round in chamber, full magazine in the pistol, hammer fully cocked, safety on.
Condition Zero: Round chambered, full magazine in the pistol, hammer fully cocked, safety off.
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Just to offer a slightly different take on Weapon Conditions, these are from a US Marine Corp training manual for the M9 pistol.

Condition 1. Magazine inserted, round in chamber, slide forward, and safety on.

Condition 2. Not applicable to the M9 service pistol.

Condition 3. Magazine inserted, chamber empty, slide forward, and safety on.

Condition 4. Magazine removed, chamber empty, slide forward, and safety on.


I find it interesting that there is no condition that would actually describe the pistol ready to fire. The marine is to take the pistol off safe only when sights are on the target and just prior to putting the finger onto the trigger. There may be other revisions to this manual. This one is dated 25 November 2003.
 
Yeah cause alot of pocket pistols don't even have a safety,.... or think about glocks for that matter.
 
DeJays Saleen said:
Shawn I wanted the best of both worlds. I wanted to be able to carry the gun in my waist band with the belt clip but I still wanted a clip to where I could still fit in my pocket holster. I have the De Santis Nemesis Pocket holster (which i love) and this belt clip works great with it. I can have the belt clip fit inside the holster, or have the clip on the outside of the holster (see pics below). So now I have 2 different ways of concealing this hand gun, In my pocket still, or in my waist band. Love it.



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You might not want to clip the gun to the pocket holster - nothing worse than pulling your gun from your pocket and the holster is still attached!
 
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