oh, but it has my friend!! do some research and see how many calibers are designed by s&w. then check out how many calibers have been designed by all the others combined. pretty interesting indeed...
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oh, but it has my friend!! do some research and see how many calibers are designed by s&w. then check out how many calibers have been designed by all the others combined. pretty interesting indeed...
did you hear all this?
the other way around. s&w gave in to the dark side. they stopped production themselves pretty much. the tommy boys wanted a safer world. for kings and queens apparently and it did force all companies to limit their magazine capacity to 10 rnds. Glock was replacing the LE guns for free to get back the old stock of magazines and pass them out with new pistols, as they were old stock. If you ever run accross a high capacity magazine from back then, it is stamped "not for civilian use. LE or export only". also that cursed bill stopped manufacture or import of about 14 differsnt sporting rifles, that according to FBI's statistics they all acounted together for less than 1% of all gun related crimes. Go figure...
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exactly my point. new caliber? design a new gun for it. the fn fal was not designed for the 7.62 nato. once asked to be chambered in it, they had the gun remade for the new caliber. With your point of view, the s&w 500 should be pushed in an L frame initially, and then say, oh, but if we beef it up it will hold. unless I am misreading something of what you say?
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Again it comes back to if you don't like Hicock45, then don't watch him. If you do but he makes you mad in one particular video, move to another.
I will be honest I find his videos boring. They are not entertaining enough for me, but then I find many gun related videos boring. It is just my opinoin, so try not to go over the deep end. I might watch his videos more if he talked less, and made shorter videos. IOW get to the point without so much BS. I do like Jeff Quinn's videos though, but even though I don't watch many of them. As I said I want to be entertained, laugh, and Hicock just does not do it for me. Black Rifle Coffee videos do, as well as a few others that are there for humor. I especially like videos that make fun of the tactikewl crowd.
I will be honest I find his videos boring. They are not entertaining enough for me, but then I find many gun related videos boring. It is just my opinoin, so try not to go over the deep end. I might watch his videos more if he talked less, and made shorter videos. IOW get to the point without so much BS. I do like Jeff Quinn's videos though, but even though I don't watch many of them. As I said I want to be entertained, laugh, and Hicock just does not do it for me. Black Rifle Coffee videos do, as well as a few others that are there for humor. I especially like videos that make fun of the tactikewl crowd.
To be honest, I've watched them for years. Most are quite entertaining, with ton's of history thrown in. I like the way he tells it. I do think he would have been an interesting teacher, seeing how that was his profession. Considering all the guns he's reviewed over so many years, I can't imagine someone having no interest, in any of the guns he's reviewed (as someone implied in this thread.)
Going back, to his early videos, one can easily see, that he had a great interest in firearms, before You-Tube ever took off. That's what counts, in my book. I haven't watched a Hickock 45 video, since this morning. Watched all 30+ minutes of it. A 45-70 even!
If that was a reference to my post, please read again what I said. 
Key words: "wouldn't purchase or own"Does it bother me or change any of my opinions?Most of the guns he reviews (and likes) I wouldn't purchase or own in a million years.
Doesn't mean I have no interest in his videos (I do!), but I'm no longer into plastic at all and I am very limited in what long guns I can shoot with my life-long left arm handicap. It gets even worse when you realize how few handguns (relatively speaking) we can legally buy here in MA (adding mucho $$$ extra cost if you really must have one!) and how our anti-2A AG lady has stopped all sales of modern sporting rifles by dealers. 
So no diss on Hickok45 whatsoever. I watch at least a few minutes of virtually every video he posts and I give him a "like" on all of them. He's a very cool guy.
But just because I watch his videos doesn't mean I want to buy the same guns he likes. Plastic wonder guns? No thanks!
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It's all been said before but give the guy a break. He never claims to be an expert and always emphasizes that he is giving his ( honest and un-bought ) opinion which may/may not match the viewers. Personally, I don't find him all that far off from my views on this particular review.
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Nothing wrong with you liking him, and feeling entertained, we have different expectations. I like to bowl, but don't watch bowling, I like to shoot but not really interested in shooting videos. I like to go for walks in the woods, but not interested in watching someone walk in the woods. I love to eat, and cook, and find cooking channels boring. I do like Bob Hope, Dean Martin, Johnny Carson, sometimes Jerry Lewis. Ya know professional entertainers.
One of my favorite shooting reviews is John Wayne in the shootist, with Ron Howard.
Hope that helps you balance my viewing goals compared to yours without to much heartburn.
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I tromp around in the desert sagebrush, side by side with the lizards, along the Pony Express trail, two or three times a week. And that's to set up targets. Then I just might listen to the Sinatra channel on XM radio, on the way home (lots of 40's through the 60's artists on that channel). As to Hope, Carson, Martin, and Lewis, their jokes and skits, were far more entertaining, than a lot of accepted ****, these days.
As to the woods, sometimes I have to wait for the deer to move, in order to get out of the driveway.
Key words: "wouldn't purchase or own"
So no diss on Hickok45 whatsoever. I watch at least a few minutes of virtually every video he posts and I give him a "like" on all of them. He's a very cool guy.
I was thinking along the lines of many rifles he's reviewed. Such as the older Marlins, Winchesters, and even the old Henry versus the new. He's a true fan of 45/70s (owns 7 or 8), and he's probably the guy that got me shooting and reloading these larger bores. And then there's the Colt revolvers, and all those type of weapons. He's done a lot of "metal" gun reviews over the years. I'm not much into plastic either.
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Soooo, somebody didn't like the beloved 3rd gen. Break out the tar boiler and the bag of feathers.
Well, I raise Hickok's video by saying I don't own a 1911 and don't quite see what the hype is all about. Sure, they shoot OK, but not THAT much better than anything else I've tried in fullsize pistols.
I was lucky enough to snag a 5906 TSW a couple of years ago to scratch (finally) my 3rd Gen itch. It shoots well and has a very smooth DA trigger for a DA/SA gun. The only one comparable I have tried is a Grand Power K100 which has a superior SA trigger.
There you go, I compared the features on two guns and one came out ahead in a particular field.
Is that any different to what Hickok does most days? Of course, he has a more engaging manner than my autopsy style of delivery.
Well, I raise Hickok's video by saying I don't own a 1911 and don't quite see what the hype is all about. Sure, they shoot OK, but not THAT much better than anything else I've tried in fullsize pistols.
I was lucky enough to snag a 5906 TSW a couple of years ago to scratch (finally) my 3rd Gen itch. It shoots well and has a very smooth DA trigger for a DA/SA gun. The only one comparable I have tried is a Grand Power K100 which has a superior SA trigger.
There you go, I compared the features on two guns and one came out ahead in a particular field.
Is that any different to what Hickok does most days? Of course, he has a more engaging manner than my autopsy style of delivery.
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Expert defined...
Where 'X' is an unknown quantity.
and a 'spurt' is a liquid under pressure.
An 'expert' is an unknown quantity of a liquid under pressure.
Where 'X' is an unknown quantity.
and a 'spurt' is a liquid under pressure.
An 'expert' is an unknown quantity of a liquid under pressure.
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There is a firearm that Hickock45 does like and has owned for almost 40 years. His Smith and Wesson model 29. He has had over 75 thousand rounds through his 29. Watch the 29 video. You can tell that is a gun he loves!! He had to have it freshener up because of high round count. That is one video he did that is definitely worth watching!
According to Hickok45, he was a secondary school teacher for many years. He said in one of his videos that he never considered it a job because he enjoyed it too much...
Let's give the man his due.
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Hickok 45 is a good guy. His opinions and points of view are worthwhile for anyone to consider.
He has a paying job that most everyone I know would love to have at half the pay.
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I am not arguing that for some he has good entertainment. I have watched him, and IMO it is like watching paint dry. But you are entitled to your opinion, and likes. Please respect that I find him to be dry. Not his fault I find most youtube videos dry. I do like ones by BRC, but you may not like those because of the sarcasm. I put Hickock45 in the same class as watching golf, or tennis.
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Yes. Since Bud's sends him free guns to shoot, he's gonna be biased. I remember seeing a Model 10 video he did. He had a Model from the 1950's and then bought a PD trade in 10 from them. It looked almost new for a PD trade in. Much nicer than my luck of the draw 10 they sent me. He's surely not gonna bash Federal ammo, either. He was shooting Winchester white box once and had a very weak round. Said that wasn't a good sign for Winchester ammo. I don't believe he would have said the same if it happened with his free federal ammo.
He used to be a folksy guy shooting his hand loads and giving an unbiased opinion. Now it's always "Glock and Ballistol". I know he doesn't bash other products, but he surely has his favorites. No gun will ever beat his Glock 19. No need to even try.
I like him. I just liked him better before the non-requested endorsement.
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I always enjoy watching hickok45's reviews. I do like 3rd gen S&Ws so watched this review even though I shoot primarily 9mm not 40 S&W. It seemed to me to be a pretty fair and honest review. He said many good things about the pistol, shoots great, good sights, accurate, etc, and the only negatives things that I can recall him mentioning in the video, was that it was a bit large and heavy for a carry pistol, which seems to be a fair assessment. He also mentioned that having the decocker lever on the slide interferes a little with grabbing the rear slide serrations, which I have to say, while I very much like my 3rd gens, I have to agree with him that also is a very valid comment, which is one of the reasons that for some recent purchases I went with a Shield and the FNH FNS-9C rather than another 3rd gen, as a safety (or decocker lever) I think is better placed on the frame, at least the ergonomics seem better that way for me, maybe not so for everyone.
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