snowman.45
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We've got plenty of choices in plastic handguns. I'm looking forward to steel framed TDA. I need no more striker-fired polymer guns. The market is awash with them.
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Gen 3’s are Coming back !
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N4KVE
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At work we were told many SA parts are made by Imbel, in Brazil. Who knows if they now use Tisas? I’ve even seen Imbel marked 1911 frames from SA. GARY
ShootMeStraight
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Damn I'd like to know where you are seeing Beretta 92X's and Sig 226's for less than $800?!?
kbm6893
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Local shop near me has 92X's for mid $700 range. Not sure about Sig cause he generally doesn't have them.
It is easy to find Beretta 92X and 92x compacts for under $800 all day long, P226’s not so much.
kbm6893
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Me too. Basically they're all the same.
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S&W introduced the belled barrel and fixed bushing with the second gen compact models 469/669. What many people found was that the compact pistols with a bushing that did not move were more accurate than the full size 9mm pistols that had the sloppy fitting removable bushing. Cheaper to make? Probably true, so it's a win-win with the fixed bushing.
Sig has just launched a new edition of their P226 X-Five competition guns now made in the USA. Further evidence that steel guns have value.
P226 XFIVE
P226 XFIVE
Steel and aluminum. My EDC is a S&W 6946. I've looked for reasons to trade it in for an M&P or Glock, but other than weight and spare parts availability, I have yet to find a compelling reason to go plastic.
Trooper224
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While this is a very valid concern, I do think it's a bit over emphasized in this case, given that few things ever break on the tanklike 3rd gens.
I don't think they're coming back and for good reason. The reasons for their discontinuance are as relevant today as they were then. New steel guns that have recently been introduced by competitors are modifications of guns still in production, not ones long out of production. That's not a direct equivalent. If the company produces something new it will probably be different and of no interest to me, but it's a nice thought.
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I dunno how to feel about this... On one hand, I really love my 4006TSW and reproductions would mean more replacement parts as well as the option to have mine factory serviced.
Also, I would love to be able to purchase a brand new 4506 or especially a 1006.
On the other hand, realistically speaking, they're probably going to cost like $1500 or more, and that's more than I'm willing to pay.
Also, I would love to be able to purchase a brand new 4506 or especially a 1006.
On the other hand, realistically speaking, they're probably going to cost like $1500 or more, and that's more than I'm willing to pay.
squidsix
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I believe that a 3913, made today, would cost about $1000. It would be well worth that. Another $500 in mags, about $150 in holsters and mag pouch, and you are below one ounce of gold. Which is my basic standard for a defensive setup.
I converted from Gen 1 (39-2) to Gen 2 (469) for about 6 months before reverting to Gen 1. I never found a S&W auto grip profile that fit as well as the 39-2 until the Shield 1.0. It fits in my pocket. The 39 never did. A 39 or a Gen 4 or whatever would be a range gun for me, not a carry option, so I'm not a buyer, but I hope everyone who would be finds one in the their stocking Christmas morning.
Smith still sells revolvers with the dreaded lock for an MSRP equal to or greater than the going price on pre-lock models, so why not a metal frame TDA/DAO they wouldn't have R&D costs to introduce?
Smith still sells revolvers with the dreaded lock for an MSRP equal to or greater than the going price on pre-lock models, so why not a metal frame TDA/DAO they wouldn't have R&D costs to introduce?
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THE PILGRIM
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Not waiting until the Pigs fly.
But will believe it when I see it.
But will believe it when I see it.
Trooper224
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They were never cheap to make, something that became fatal in the emerging polymer world. A new 4506 had an MSRP of just over $700 when it was introduced in 1988. Adjusting for inflation that would be $1400-$1500 today. So I wouldn't expect M&P prices.
Plus, Smith being Smith, there would probably be enough design changes that new parts won't fit the old guns. How many new revolver parts still fit the old ones? Exactly one. So, those thinking they'll get new product support for their old guns will be disappointed.
This isn't happening.
Plus, Smith being Smith, there would probably be enough design changes that new parts won't fit the old guns. How many new revolver parts still fit the old ones? Exactly one. So, those thinking they'll get new product support for their old guns will be disappointed.
This isn't happening.
Hope so. Have 3 45 TSWs, & 16(+4506 & a couple others), as well as, 40 TSWs & 16. Would like to see them in titanium.
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I could use a 39-2 in the Classic Line. And, in the regular line, the 5906 and 3913. Whatever they do, never underestimate the willingness of the product planners at S&W to screw up a perfectly good idea.
