Oh no, now you've done it! ArchangleCD where are you??
Yes, HS 6 is a good, recommended powder by Speer, Hornady
don't know, don't care? Is that the same as Ignorance and Apathy??
That used to be my line at work!
180 gr 40 sw help
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Oh no, now you've done it! ArchangleCD where are you??
Yes, HS 6 is a good, recommended powder by Speer, Hornady
don't know, don't care? Is that the same as Ignorance and Apathy??
That used to be my line at work!
Last of the Mohicans
Member
Oh no, now you've done it! ArchangleCD where are you??
Yes, HS 6 is a good, recommended powder by Speer, Hornady
don't know, don't care? Is that the same as Ignorance and Apathy??
I've loaded some up with 180gr RNFPs to try out as per the Hodgdon manual. I haven't shot them yet, but hope to this weekend (through a P226 and a Beretta 96). I was very interested in seeing what other people thought of it as a .40 propellant: just because it is in the manual doesn't mean it is a load that lots of people use or think highly of!
Don't know, don't care? Heh-heh, a little joke about keeping your nose clean and not getting involved in office politics. For those of us in the Science department, it keeps us laughing at others who play all the usual workplace games!
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
Case in point
Is HS-6 a good powder? Yep! Is it good in the 40 s&w? You decide: the recipe for it and 180gr XTP says with a maximum charge you can expect 985fps and 32,500psi. The same thing with Longshot will get you 1159fps with roughly the same pressure. What about SR4756? Right at 1000fps with the pressure down to 28,500psi or so.
I'm not going to use the HS-6 combo in my Glock, I may in a M610 though.
Fwiw
Is HS-6 a good powder? Yep! Is it good in the 40 s&w? You decide: the recipe for it and 180gr XTP says with a maximum charge you can expect 985fps and 32,500psi. The same thing with Longshot will get you 1159fps with roughly the same pressure. What about SR4756? Right at 1000fps with the pressure down to 28,500psi or so.
I'm not going to use the HS-6 combo in my Glock, I may in a M610 though.
Fwiw
Last of the Mohicans
Member
That's some food for thought...I don't have any Longshot or SR4756 on hand. However, after I take the young'uns blueberry picking today, I'm heading to check out the wares at a new local pusher's establishment.
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I've loaded some up with 180gr RNFPs to try out as per the Hodgdon manual. I haven't shot them yet, but hope to this weekend (through a P226 and a Beretta 96). I was very interested in seeing what other people thought of it as a .40 propellant: just because it is in the manual doesn't mean it is a load that lots of people use or think highly of!
As with most any thing related to reloading. It depends on who you talk to, what day it is, the Moon Phase and all other things.
If you want to see what some of the big boys use check the loads here:
http://www.k8nd.com/documents/hl40sw.pdf
IPSC Loads - Loads for USPSA/IPSC Practical Shooting Competitions
Last of the Mohicans
Member
Yes, the use of what's on hand is quite true. I had HS-6 on the shelf, so after looking at the manual, that's what I used. However, I am interested in trying some other propellants as well.
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
Not sure the analivy works!
That thought process MAY get you into trouble. It would be like saying that a brain surgeon of course can cure the common cold. Kinda!
If you look through the loads, you will find that there are few powders faster than W231/HP-38 listed. A few.
There are loads all through there that are only safe in SOME guns, read their disclaimer in the beginning of the info. That is pretty interesting!
Seems like another idiot said nearly the same thing!
There are some pretty heavy bullets listed at the bottom of the page. NO way I'm going to shoot some of those loads in my Glock!
That thought process MAY get you into trouble. It would be like saying that a brain surgeon of course can cure the common cold. Kinda!
If you look through the loads, you will find that there are few powders faster than W231/HP-38 listed. A few.
There are loads all through there that are only safe in SOME guns, read their disclaimer in the beginning of the info. That is pretty interesting!
Seems like another idiot said nearly the same thing!
There are some pretty heavy bullets listed at the bottom of the page. NO way I'm going to shoot some of those loads in my Glock!
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
Clarification: Not with a stock barrel!
I guess the issue here is if the firearm is one with a unsupported chamber in 40 SW such as the Glock or BHP in 40.
In those, as Skip (SmithCrazy) is saying, reducing pressure is a very good thing.
If I shoot my Sig 40 SW, it matters not to me what powder I use. I do not load max loads to begin with but generally use HP 38. I have been using a lot of Win Auto Comp which is a slower powder (not that I have any compensated guns) I just bought it to try it. I was surprised to find it listed in the new Hornady Manual for the 180 bullet.
I also just bought a jar of HS 6 for 357 Mag but will try it in the 40 also.
In those, as Skip (SmithCrazy) is saying, reducing pressure is a very good thing.
If I shoot my Sig 40 SW, it matters not to me what powder I use. I do not load max loads to begin with but generally use HP 38. I have been using a lot of Win Auto Comp which is a slower powder (not that I have any compensated guns) I just bought it to try it. I was surprised to find it listed in the new Hornady Manual for the 180 bullet.
I also just bought a jar of HS 6 for 357 Mag but will try it in the 40 also.
Well, we can't help someone named SmithCrazy who insists on shooting a Glock in 40 SW! Are you using the stock barrel? If so then where are your cast boolits as you should not use lead in those funny barrels.
You didn't actually BUY bullets did you???analivy??
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
Well, we can't help someone named SmithCrazy who insists on shooting a Glock in 40 SW! Are you using the stock barrel? If so then where are your cast boolits as you should not use lead in those funny barrels.
analivy??
As a matter of fact, I did purchase some Berry & Ranier plated billets for this gun. My new to me Glock 21 has seen some lead but is getting a new Lone Wolf 6" barrel in a few days. Then all it will see is lead! (Even as carry ammo!)
I assume most folks here can read. Every manual has a warning especially for reduced loads and for loading the SW 40 in unsupported barrels,
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
Stupid iPod!
I have hands like a gorilla and trying to make this work is challenging at best!
ANALOGY
I have hands like a gorilla and trying to make this work is challenging at best!
ANALOGY
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
You are going to get disappointed by assuming those kinds of things! Haha
I have to go to a Dr appointment now. I hope he can read.
Carry on!
Carry on!
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
I have to go to a Dr appointment now. I hope he can read.
Carry on!
Gullible! Haha
Last of the Mohicans
Member
Well, this being Canada and all, the new pusher is set up mostly for dealing with rifles and shotguns. He had only a limited number of powders for handguns. I will have to stop at my usual dealer on Saturday for some SR4756.
