K-MO
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It's a solid performer, and a beautiful pistol...one of my favorites. Try Check Mate mags. They run great in mine.
1911 E Series
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dakota1911
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I have a couple of their cousins from the Perf Center and they are lovely pistols for the money. Yes, they will pass the extractor test where you fire them without the mag in the pistol and get good extraction/ejection.
AveragEd
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I personally do not get the adversity to the external extractor aside from a "that's not how they used to be" viewpoint. I own three S&W 1911s and am about to purchase another one and much prefer the external extractor to the internal ones my former 1911s had.
The internal ones seemed to need occasional "tuning" (read: bending) so the empty cases would fly out of the gun and into my catch net. By comparison, the only time one of my S&W 1911s didn't do that without any "tuning" was when I loaded some shells too light and they went all over and even stovepiped a few times.
But each to their own, I guess.
Ed
The internal ones seemed to need occasional "tuning" (read: bending) so the empty cases would fly out of the gun and into my catch net. By comparison, the only time one of my S&W 1911s didn't do that without any "tuning" was when I loaded some shells too light and they went all over and even stovepiped a few times.
But each to their own, I guess.
Ed
I went over to Brownell's last week to check out their inventory and got a chance to handle one of these in person, and I was impressed! Really a lot of gun for the money.
I really loved the PC1911 I had. Unfortunately, the odd ball sight cuts was the end. Because of my glasses prescription, I just couldn’t get a consistent sight picture with the stock sights. When I went to try and find a replacement the best I could do was a set of Trijicons that were almost as hard to use. I even tried to get a red dot, but couldn’t find an adapter plate.
I really found it irksome that something as simple as replacing the sights would be near impossible on one of the more expensive items in the product line. In the end I sold it and replaced it with a Colt National Match.
BTW for the record, I do not believe the external extractor on the 1911 marks the end of western civilization.
Hank
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I really found it irksome that something as simple as replacing the sights would be near impossible on one of the more expensive items in the product line. In the end I sold it and replaced it with a Colt National Match.
BTW for the record, I do not believe the external extractor on the 1911 marks the end of western civilization.
Hank
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I agree with the sights and sight cut. I ended up with a Dawson fiber optic front sight and retained the factory rear. Much better for my eyes.
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A fresh pick up for me.
Piling on.
This is the fourth one with the S&W stamp on the slide.
I like the guns.
I like the looks.
I like the way they fit my hand, as is, from the factory.
Someone mentioned the magazines were manufactured by Wilson.
I have two 'bobtails' and the factory mags were not working out for me.
I bought some brand new Wilson's and they perform as they should.
All is well.
Life is good.
enjoy,
bdGreen
Piling on.
This is the fourth one with the S&W stamp on the slide.
I like the guns.
I like the looks.
I like the way they fit my hand, as is, from the factory.
Someone mentioned the magazines were manufactured by Wilson.
I have two 'bobtails' and the factory mags were not working out for me.
I bought some brand new Wilson's and they perform as they should.
All is well.
Life is good.
enjoy,
bdGreen
smoothshooter
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Are the dovetails small enough that they can be opened up to a more standard size?
Taurus makes some amazingly nice 1911's with all of the bells and whistles also.
AveragEd
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Well, yes they do BUT the PT1911 is not an exact 1911 clone. NO ONE makes an adjustable sight that fits the PT1911 (and that became very important as you will learn). Their ambidextrous safety is larger than any one else's and any aftermarket grip must be "massaged" to afford clearance for the lever. There are other variances but I can't recall them right now.
I bought two stainless steel PT1911s several years ago, one for my son and one for me. I thought that for a little over $600, they were a great deal but that soon changed. Both guns required trigger work to be shot with any accuracy. Both guns needed excess tool marks removed from the internals. And my son's shot very low and left; the lack of an adjustable sight that could have solved that problem was the last straw - both guns now have new owners.
Aside from that, if you compare a PT1911 to, say, the S&W 1911 in bdGreen's post above, the PT1911's stainless looks very "dirty" and it cannot be "cleaned up." I could go on but you get the idea - you get what you pay for.
Ed
I bought two stainless steel PT1911s several years ago, one for my son and one for me. I thought that for a little over $600, they were a great deal but that soon changed. Both guns required trigger work to be shot with any accuracy. Both guns needed excess tool marks removed from the internals. And my son's shot very low and left; the lack of an adjustable sight that could have solved that problem was the last straw - both guns now have new owners.
Aside from that, if you compare a PT1911 to, say, the S&W 1911 in bdGreen's post above, the PT1911's stainless looks very "dirty" and it cannot be "cleaned up." I could go on but you get the idea - you get what you pay for.
Ed
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Thanks for everyone's comments. Especially the comments about the sights. I don't mind the Novak clones, but I couldn't handle the 3 dot's. The sight window is wide enough I could never keep the front properly centered, my eye's drifting back and forth between the rear dots. As I have done on several of my handguns, I turned the 3 dot into a "Heinie Straight 8". Painted over the 2 dots, and painted a single white dot centered directly below the notch. I can pick this up faster, and aim more accurately, stacking one on top of the other.
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I just received my fourth S&W 1911 from Smith & Wesson on Thursday. I got the #108482 like bdGreen's above to make into a dedicated carry gun.
I added a Wilson magwell, extended slide release (arthritic fingers love those!), extended magazine release and have their ambidextrous safety to install when time permits. I put the gun in Recover Tactical's #CC3P Grip and Rail System and attached a Streamlight TLR-1 300-lumen light to the rail. The whole works goes into Recover's #HC11 holster.
Yes, I know one of the Sc models would be smaller and lighter and I do have the two-tone version in a Miami Classic II shoulder rig but it's been "on loan" to our son for a few years now and I just like a good old full-size 1911.
I know, we need photos but since Photobucket became costly to use, I haven't mastered photo uploading using another site. However, if you go to Recover's website, you'll find photo of a #108482 in the same equipment.
By the way, the two magazines that came with my gun are Wilson #47Ds.
Ed
I added a Wilson magwell, extended slide release (arthritic fingers love those!), extended magazine release and have their ambidextrous safety to install when time permits. I put the gun in Recover Tactical's #CC3P Grip and Rail System and attached a Streamlight TLR-1 300-lumen light to the rail. The whole works goes into Recover's #HC11 holster.
Yes, I know one of the Sc models would be smaller and lighter and I do have the two-tone version in a Miami Classic II shoulder rig but it's been "on loan" to our son for a few years now and I just like a good old full-size 1911.
I know, we need photos but since Photobucket became costly to use, I haven't mastered photo uploading using another site. However, if you go to Recover's website, you'll find photo of a #108482 in the same equipment.
By the way, the two magazines that came with my gun are Wilson #47Ds.
Ed
