1917 with some English markings
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I purchased one at a Auction with English Proof Marks different from yours, does not have the notenglishmake, it does have a inventory number stamped on the left side and SN#7963. From what I have found out they are from the Lend Lease Program and from private owners.
Would be a great story to find out how they made it back here and on this Forum.
Would be a great story to find out how they made it back here and on this Forum.
Absalom
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Yes, I know about that committee. But that was a year earlier than the gun discussed. In fact, even by the time of that ad in November 1940, the Battle of Britain was over, the danger of invasion passed, and this private effort was allowed to proceed more as a gesture of moral support. Some donated guns actually ended up with the home guard, but most went into storage in Britain.
Besides, the whole idea was to collect and supply guns beyond the factories’ capacity to provide.
I cannot see this context relating to a gun shipped new from the factory much later.
Besides, the whole idea was to collect and supply guns beyond the factories’ capacity to provide.
I cannot see this context relating to a gun shipped new from the factory much later.
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StrawHat
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On closer inspection, after reading and rereading this thread and links, what I took to be scratches on the upper corner of the cylinder opening by the rear sight is actually a partially stamped flaming bomb.
The serial number put it late in 1918 so consistent with the flaming bomb.
Kevin
The serial number put it late in 1918 so consistent with the flaming bomb.
Kevin
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I just found this number bracketed by two revolvers that went to the Post Office.
Can anyone say when it was built?
Kevin
Can anyone say when it was built?
Kevin
1917 Year of manufacturer site here:
U.S. Military Dates of Manufacture
Click on 1917 S&W and plug in your serial #
U.S. Military Dates of Manufacture
Click on 1917 S&W and plug in your serial #
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StrawHat
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Thank you, it shows October 1918.
In the book “Springfield Research Service: Serial numbers of U.S. Martial Arms. Volume 4 1995 Edition” that number did not show up but was bracketed by two numbers that both were much later and I could not wrap my mind around the US Property Mark’s with a date in he late 20s.
Kevin
Ray
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Hi Kevin where did you see October ? In my search it only appears the year.
Regards, Ray
Regards, Ray
Jack Flash
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Ray
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Thanks Jack I saw it now, regards, Ray
Absalom
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Jack:
Are you interpreting the scratch (red arrow) as a broad arrow? Or is there something else I'm missing?
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Jack:
Are you interpreting the scratch (red arrow) as a broad arrow? Or is there something else I'm missing?
My question also. When I get home I will look closer at the frame.
Kevin
Donald Paul
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My father was a member of a Hunt/Gun club in Webster, Pennsylvania. He and some of the other club members
took part in the donation of firearms to the Britts. His personal donation was a .32-20 caliber pump action Remington rifle.
~~~~ {Back to Webster, PA} ~~~
He hunted bear, deer, pheasant, rabbit, and who knows what else in the Appalachian Mountains during the seasons.
Per my mother, hunting season was a big, big event for him and his co-members.
-Donald
It's a scratch. Way too high for the broad arrow location which is lower down by the knuckle/grip frame hump.
See post #3 here: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...-lock-wwi-british-markings.html#post137889628
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StrawHat
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The different combinations of proof mark, import, export, inspection, unit, etc. stampings is almost endless!
For examples:
If the gun arrived thru official military purchasing channels, was actually issued to a unit, was sold thru official channels, exported, etc. it's most likely to have all possible stampings.
If the gun left the battlefield in a duffel bag and made the journey back across the big pond to the USA, it would have a minimum of stampings.
If the gun was sold on the civilian market in the USA and purchased by the Civilian Purchasing Comm. on behalf of the Brits, it was imported in England thru civilian channels, not military, or sold by S&W directly to an English retail distributor, again the stampings on each would vary accordingly.
It would be interesting to see how many variations there could possibly be. Personally I've seen many variations just on this forum.
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StrawHat
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Did the broad arrow sho acceptance by the British military? I do not think this revolver saw British service. It may have made it overseas and somehow been brought into England and sold but I do not believe it was ever a British military revolver.
Kevin
Kevin
Jack Flash
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Yes.
The scratch sure looked like the somewhat curved version of the Broad Arrow to me. I'll have to magnify it and look again.
Has anyone seen the sideways crown on sitting on ?? before? Or am I imagining that too? (See below)
Yes.
The scratch sure looked like the somewhat curved version of the Broad Arrow to me. I'll have to magnify it and look again.
Has anyone seen the sideways crown on sitting on ?? before? Or am I imagining that too? (See below)
Not imagining it, that's a sideways crown.
Yes.
Therefore you might find this thread informative:
Model 1917 odd barrel markings - can you help?
