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Could be Coydogs, We have some interbreeding up here in IL.
Texas Star
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The fur color is odd, but a .243 in the right place won't notice fur color!
I suspect those are from the same litter. Bear Bio may add something if he sees this.
I suspect those are from the same litter. Bear Bio may add something if he sees this.
mckenney99
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Attended a program several years ago at the OSU Farm Science Review, put on by the Ohio Dept of Natural Resources and The Ohio State University. They stated that Coyotes color and size will vary greatly just like Wolves. They pretty much debunked the myth of Coyotes breeding with domestic dogs with genetic testing. Coyotes are much more likely to kill the domestic dogs than mate with one and the size/coloration that has always been claimed as "Coy-dogs" is just the normal variation due to genetics, diet, season and geography.
Texas Star
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But coy-dogs seem more common in some areas, and are often bigger, like the ones that killed that Canadian singer. They were pretty big for normal coyotes.
SC_Mike
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I'm just sayin'.
Got this gal about two weeks ago.
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Coyotes kill foxes, they don't mate with them.
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Steve W
The second skin from the right looks to me about like what the OP posted.
Steve W
Fox blood either way then..
HOUSTON RICK
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Yotes are all over Houston.
Ivan the Butcher
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The two coyotes pictured in the OP are about normal sized for healthy adolescents and about 3/4 grown to the full sized healthy males I see in Central, Ohio. The big, healthy males are well fed because they live in Upper Arlington and Grandview Heights! The garbage is full of nutrition and the fluffy cats are plentiful! I work at a long closed dump at the bottom of the town and I run across the remains of rabbits and house cats almost evert time I walk the property. We destroyed the habitat they were living in so the moved up into the neighborhood about 3 years ago, and the missing pet signs sprung up like crazy! In town poison or trapping are problematic for pets, In the county we just shoot as many as we can!
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LVSteve
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We've got them scrawny, like the ones in OP's shot, to looking like well fed Alsatians. Coworker said his mother looked out the other week and one was just chilling on her back lawn. They're getting beyond brazen in some parts of the Vegas valley.
ColbyBruce
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Years ago the "red wolf" hybrid was re-introduced into western NC along with the elk. Those in the photos could be a mix of coyote and red wolf. I have seen two; full grown they are bigger than a coyote.
Eski
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A few years back, my wife was walking one of our dogs outside at night and was startled to see a large German Shepherd on the other side of our garden stone wall about 20 feet away..... Well yeah, when she got a better look at it it was just a large coyote. Obviously not something she was happy to see, but they've always been around... even coming up on our back deck.
My two little coy-dogs wouldn't stand much chance up against one, so we're armed at all times when outside.
My two little coy-dogs wouldn't stand much chance up against one, so we're armed at all times when outside.
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My sister & her husband live out in the country. Their little Yorkshire was trained to run out & do his business & come right back in. He'd been doing the same thing for the 7-8 years they had him, until one time he didn't come right back.
My BIL stepped out back and called him, and heard a "Yelp" down by the creek, some 100 yards away. BIL immediately grabbed a flashlight and the rifle by the door & took off. Never grabbing a coat, and it was in the 20's outside.
Sis said he was gone for nearly 4 hours before he came back, with no dog. I broke all of our hearts, because he was a family member, who never missed a lap when one was presented to him.
BIL went on a coyote hunting binge for two years, calling them in a killing every one he saw. He was up around 20 or so when they dried up or left the area.
My little guy is not so good about coming right back, so I go out with him every time after I get home from work. Armed & with a bright light. I sweep the entire yard with a light when it's dark, before he gets off the porch. I've seen eyes a few times, but being in the country ourselves, it could be many critters.
Sis & BIL now do the same thing. I hate a coyote like I hate a possum. I'm plain ole skeert of snakes.
The light color in coyotes is due to a severe lead deficiency. They need a proper treatment. About 90 grains for the small one and up to 150 grains for the larger one. Usually only takes one treatment.
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fiasconva
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The one in the first pic looks like it may have mange.
Fishslayer
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My first thought. Or REALLY big foxes!
Texas Star
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Typically, who do you think would win a fight: a coyote or a bobcat?
But coyotes often bring friends to a fight.
But coyotes often bring friends to a fight.
Here's a combination you won't see every day. This is a cross-breed of a wolf and a coyote. He belongs to a guy who runs a motorcycle shop in Lowell, Arizona (a suburb of Bisbee). Here he is seen frolicking in a plastic pool of water. The guy says he's a very loyal pet, and faithfully watches the premises at night. I suspect there have been no burglaries there since he's been on duty.
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akoda
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I mean this question honestly so please don't flame me. why so much hate for a coyote? eating livestock? I saw the post on the pet getting killed. don't coyotes kill snakes and other vermin? they are said to be in my area of Va but not in large numbers
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I can give my personal experience and observation. Ten years ago I could go deer hunting on my farm in North Central North Carolina and if I did not see 20 deer and 40 turkeys before lunch I was not looking. Last year we saw less than ten deer the entire season and three turkeys during the same time period. We found three coyote dens on the farm and they are terrorizing my niece's horses almost nightly.
One of the guys that hunts with us has a friend who found a coyote den on his property, inside the city limits of a medium sized town. He put up a game camera and counted 23 fawns that were dragged to the den by the coyotes during one spring.
They have virtually destroyed hunting in my home county.
What part of Virginia are you in? I've seen them personally in Henrico, Chesterfield, Spotsylvania, and along the Blue Ridge Parkway, so they're around.
When we lived in Spotsylvania, up on the Rapadan, my wife had one follow along behind her one evening when she was walking her dogs. She had no idea what it was, but when she described the "funny acting dog" I knew what it was. After that she never left the house without a gun. One of her dogs later just vanished. I always suspected a 'yote got him.
S&WIowegan
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The main problem with coyotes is not enough people shoot them. I grew up in northern IL and we never saw or heard them. Now they are a scourge over the entire country. They are very adaptable and will live in cities where no one shoots. We lost a house cat 15 years ago who absolutely refused to stay indoors. One day she never came back. We searched and put out photos but no luck. Our current pets don't go outside.
fiasconva
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akoda, 'yotes will eat just about anything that doesn't eat them first. One of the wildlife management areas had 70% of the fawns killed by them one year. That doesn't take into account young turkeys, ducks, geese and anything else they can catch.
