2" VS 3" REVOLVER!

3” no thank you

Took me three 3”ers to see not for me
3” hvy barrel m36 blue
3” 65 LadySmith
The much sought after 3” 66-2
For me not comfortably concealable. Not as accurate as my three 5” barreled Smiths.
I do think a 3” 686+ would be a ultimate house revolver.
For me its gotta be 2” for EDC for pocket, IWB or ankle holster carry
 
My 2" M60-7 is for EDC with Buffalo Bore HEAVY +P #20A or Speer 135 grain SBGD loads.

My 3" M65 is for the Woods and I use the BB 180 grain HCSWC 357's. The extra 1" of barrel length gives a considerable amount greater velocity with Magnums. A 4-6" would even be much better for ballistics but harder to carry so many hours afield. I'd rather have the 3" with me than the 6" at home.
 
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my two Cents

More than anything else this thread proves the old adage: to each his or her own.

I've not carried one of my 3" J-frames because they all have hammers and only take .38s. My 2⅛" 640 Pro resides in a Lobo Enhanced Pancake at 4 o'clock. Most often my 1⅞" M&P 340 is in my left front jeans pocket in a Blackhawk pocket holster. The Hogue Tamer -- in the first photo -- doesn't work for pocket carry so I switch to the Hogue Bantam for that duty.

On the occasions when I practice with the 340 in the Lobo -- with the Tamer -- I realize a noticeable difference, the 340 being easier and faster to present than the 640. Weight? The 640 is only a half pound heavier. Barrel length? The 640 is only a quarter inch longer. A combination of the two? Who knows? But there's a difference so I can't imagine trying to get used to a 3" barrel's extra length and weight.

I'm plenty satisfied with my choices, and I like to keep things simple so I'm not going to try to teach myself to carry a 3" exposed hammer revolver that only takes .38 Specials.

My two Cents,

Bob
 

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Picked up a 3" Colt Detective Special about a month back. Already had a S&W Model 36 and 49. Pros of the Colt. Manageable recoil, longer sight radius, six shots. Cons. A little harder to conceal. Tough finding a decent holster. They're either too short or too long. Bottom line? The 49's riding with me, at least today. It's an easier carry.
 
ECQ advantages is definitely a primary reason why I choose a snub and specifically a 2" snub. Hammerless 3" models are extremely rare and an enclosed hammer is as important of a factor in ECQ if not more so than the barrel length of the weapon. In terms of weapon retention, an extra inch can actually have a fairly sizable impact. I've seen a few high profile defensive shooting instructors claim that if you're well versed in retention skills, barrel length won't matter much. That simply isn't true IMO. The problem with their retention training is that it is usually limited to very robotic controlled drills much like a lot of traditional martial art training is conducted. Even most of the defensive tactics instructors from police departments I've worked with over the years don't have a clue unfortunately.

H2H and ECQ skills are able to be pressure-tested much more effectively and realistically than defensive shooting skills which rely much more on the theoretical. Force-on-Force is the about the best you can do in the context of defensive shooting training, but it has it's limitations. ECQ scenarios by contrast can be simulated very realistically since they primarily focus on accessing and retaining the weapon in a contact environment, defending strikes, positional control and movement rather than on shooting. A real gun isn't even required for such training. The problem is very few people have ever engaged in such training, don't understand it nor the actual defense scenarios where it would be applicable yet think they do and high quality training that focuses on it is very difficult to find.

Many people think high profile equals quality, but I would point to the state of the martial arts prior to the rise of MMA and reality-based training as being analogous where much of the general public thought the flamboyant techniques demonstrated by their favorite martial arts movie star represented the pinnacle of H2H effectiveness.

The autoloaders primary advantage is capacity. I don't view that extra capacity likely being an asset in a public civilian defense scenario whereas I think the ECQ advantages of the hammerless snub will more likely factor in. I do own several Glocks, but they are usually reserved for home defense scenarios where I have ample lead time. If investigating a noise that is most likely nothing, answering the door to a stranger etc., where a contact scenario is more probable, I'll still choose a snub.

Both you and ContinentalOPS make some excellent points. Thanks to both of you for making time to compose lengthy replies. You both got me refocused on why the snub makes the sense it does.
 
A 640 pro in 3” would be perfect. But alass they do not make such a beast! Why I do not know as it would compete head to head with the new Kimber K6 3 inch.
 
True. I cannot imagine the muzzle blast with a 2" .357 magnum.


You don't have to hit them with the bullet, you can BBQ them with the muzzle flash. :D :D

This is at night with a 4" gun.
 

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Well these are what I rotate.the CA Bulldog .44 SPL. 2.5" is the one I EDC 90% of the time.
 

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I like the looks and feel of a 3 inch barrel. Found this 1975 vintage square butt, heavy barrel Model 36-1 a while back, but the girlfriend seems to have taken a shine to it.

Luckily, while the J-frame is TDY at her house, I still have a 3 inch Police Positive Special made in 1915. Plus the same Bianchi 5BHL holster that fits the Police Positive fits the old first generation Charter Arms Bulldog as well. There's something to be said for big, soft 245 grain bullets over 6.5 grains of Unique!


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Are those cartridges 158 gr LRN .38 Specials? You do know that they have a horrible record for stopping power.
 
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