.22 LR or .22 mag snubbies?

[eod354]

I'd like to start looking into .22 S&W revolvers, preferably 2"-4"
Can anyone give me some model numbers to look into. Thanks.

 

[murphydog]

The K frame model 18, the later full lug 17 and stainless 617 are 4". In J frames, the .22/32 Kit Gun, or model 34, in 2 or 4", by far the easiest to find. The stainless model 63, usually 4", hard to find in 2" and also seen in 5". The Airweight model 43, 3.5", adjustable sight. The modern 317 fixed or adjustable sight in 2" and 3". The model 51 .22 Magnum adjustable sight in 4", the 351 fixed sight in 2". The models 43, 317 and 351 are currently made. Please post a photo when you find one!

 

[eod354]

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Great info.

 

[H Richard]

The new 2010 just introduced items are Model 43C, Product Code 160043 is the .22 LR, with a 1 7/8" barrel Centennial model. 8 Rounds, Matte Black aluminum Alloy frame & cylinder.

Model 351C, Product Code 160351 is the .22 magnum. 7 rounds, but everything else is like the 43C.

 

[smitholdtimer]

eod354

You may get lucky and run into a Mod. 650 or Mod 651. Both being chambered for the .22 Mag, the 650 has fixed sights and heavy 3" barrel. The 651 is similar to the Mod 63 only chambered for the .22 Mag. Both "J" frames. Good hunting! I apologize for not reading your post thoroughly before submitting my reply, neither of these have the snub nose to which you referred.

 

[murphydog]

Sam;

Thanks for remembering those, I forgot about the 650 series, have never seen one personally.

 

[Old Navy]

If you guys ever chronograph a revolver in 22LR & 22WMR you will be upset for buying one WMR for sure. There is a reason that in revolvers with changeable cylinders why the shoot to same point of aim.

Winchester white box that averages about 1500fps out of 20" rifle will average about 1100fps out of a 6" M-48 where standard 22LR rated 1250 will average about 1050fps. These numbers are not exact because I have either thrown
it away or lost thrown away the paper with all the data.

The reason for the big loss in velocity from the 3 or 4 different brands/weights we tried was due to couple big reasons, the barrel cylinder gap and short barrels. The main reason seemed to be the BC gap, but the barrel was only minor loss compared to cylinder gap. The slow burning rifle powder that is used is a killer in the short barrel guns like pistols and revolver, even the 22WMR Excel Arms 22WMR with 8" barrel suffered about 20% to 25% drop from a 20" rifle.

The other down side is the WMR is very ear damaging when fired w/o hearing protection, very much so when firing indoors. I have removed and stored the WMR cylinder from my Dan Wesson decided I did not need to waste the money and traded off my S&W 48 for a NIB 2206 that is a tack driver.

 

[suckersrus]

Model 63

 

[Old Navy]

I do like that little pretty.

 

[649 Bodyguard]

If you can find a J Frame Model 63 in stainless. It will make a fine gun for your first 22lr. Or look for the same thing in a blue finish, the Model 34, Both of these, are great guns to own..

 

[beaverfever]

.22mag always seemed like such a pointless round to me, makes as much noise as a 9mm, costs as much as 9mm ammo, and has the power of a .22lr.

 

[dbracin]

Here's a model 63 4", model 43 3 1/2"and model 34 2".

Here are 2 model 317's

Here's a K-22 and a model 17-4.

 

[murphydog]

Here are 2 model 317's

Interesting, a 2" model 63 barrel on the adjustable sight 617, right?

 

[dbracin]

Interesting, a 2" model 63 barrel on the adjustable sight 617, right?

That's a 317 with a steel barrel and adjustable sights. Only 120 made.

 

[revolvergeek]

Here's a model 63 4", model 43 3 1/2"and model 34 2".

Nice toys one and all, but the 3 1/2" 43 is really sweet!

 

[DRYHEAT]

Model 34 - 2" bbl. - pinned & recessed - Nickel

 

[inFALable]

Great 317 with adjustable sights and steel barrel!

I've never been able to find a load that shoots POA with my old 317. Too bad because it would be a great kit gun.

 

[Justin251]

I wish someone would make some .22mag pistol rounds. Then I could buy that kel tec PMR 30 and know it would function correctly without ever shooting it.

.22mag just has too slow burning power in it.

I do however want a .22mag taurus revolver.

My dad used to have a nickel plated sw .22lr revolver. Looked like a "cowboy gun" with a 6" barrel. He kicks himself everytime he sees one at the gun show because he sold it for like $200 and sees them for $500 in identical shape his was in.

 

[murphydog]

That's a 317 with a steel barrel and adjustable sights. Only 120 made.

Thanks, saw this listed in the SCSW, first time ever seeing one. Very nice!

 

[Justin251]

.22mag always seemed like such a pointless round to me, makes as much noise as a 9mm, costs as much as 9mm ammo, and has the power of a .22lr.

In pistols yes. Because of the slow burning powder. It's made to push the bullet through a longer barrel than a pistol has.

However, .22mag certainly leaves .22lr in the dust when it comes to rifles.

If a .22mag pistol cartridge were ever made then that would be one bad dude for such a small round.