Old School S&W Model Number List

[BAM-BAM]

Great effort ...... what am I missing??????

All you need is the SCS&W 4th Ed. to get the same info.................

 

[JP@AK]

In fact I can't even find an N frame 22 mag at all.

Because there isn't one.

Models 48/51/53 should all be 22 mag, 51 is a J frame, what is the 48?? Another K frame??

The Model 48 is a K frame chambered for the .22 Magnum Rimfire. It is essentially the same gun as the K-22 Masterpiece Model 17, but chambered for the more powerful magnum round.

The Model 51 is a J frame Kit Gun chambered for the .22 Magnum Rimfire.

The Model 53 is a K frame, but it is chambered for the .22 Jet, which is a centerfire cartridge. It also came with inserts so the .22 LR could be fired from it, giving it some versatility. But the ".22 Magnum" on the barrel is somewhat misleading. It could lead someone to believe it is intended for the .22 Magnum rimfire.

 

[JP@AK]

Just a technicality but there weren't any I frames with model numbers. The J frame was in full production for all small frames before model numbers came into use.

This simply is not true. Model numbers were assigned in 1957 and model marked guns started shipping in 1958. Several models were built on the I frame for two or three years before being converted to the slightly larger J frame. Here are a few examples:

.32 Hand Ejector Model 30: It got the J frame in 1961, and became the Model 30-1 at that time.

.22/32 Kit Gun Model 34: It got the J frame in 1960, and became the Model 34-1.

.22/32 Target Model 35: It got the J frame in 1960, and became the Model 35-1.

Until c. 1960, the only small frame guns built on the J frame were those chambered for the .38 Special.

 

[black88is]

Reference model 57 and 58, no model 19 and 13 version .41 magnum.

 

[Muss Muggins]

I'll say it again. There's a couple fella's that sell a right nice book with all this stuff sorted out . . .

 

[dgk777]

And a very good book it is.

My Christmas gift to myself.
Ordered it from Bezos at 10:00AM on a Sunday and it was delivered to my door by 6:00PM. That still blows my mind.

 

[Etalksalot]

Reference model 57 and 58, no model 19 and 13 version .41 magnum.

My point with that is I'm trying to explain what they look like, also that it is a 6 shot with or without a shroud. The 57 looks like an N frame 41 mag version of a model 19. If someone knows what a 19 is, but not a 57 it'll give them an idea. Same with the 58

 

[Etalksalot]

I'll say it again. There's a couple fella's that sell a right nice book with all this stuff sorted out . . .

I know, however I made this list for people who aren't into these old guns enough to go spend 40 bucks on a book for a bunch of info they don't want or need. It's a quick reference list so people can either find out about a model they are interested in, or discover a model they never knew about without having to buy a book. I want to buy the book, but money has been so tight lately I can't even afford to spare 40 bucks for a book even though I want one really bad, I unfortunately have to wait and I'm sure there are others out there in the same boat. Besides many people post threads with just a quick question about a particular model number and thus might help answer a few questions. I'm a huge enthusiast when it comes to the old guns, but I'm willing to bet there are a ton of people out there who own a Smith or two, but could care less about buying a book on the subject.. Besides I have OCD, and this gave me something to do.

 

[Etalksalot]

This simply is not true. Model numbers were assigned in 1957 and model marked guns started shipping in 1958. Several models were built on the I frame for two or three years before being converted to the slightly larger J frame. Here are a few examples:

.32 Hand Ejector Model 30: It got the J frame in 1961, and became the Model 30-1 at that time.

.22/32 Kit Gun Model 34: It got the J frame in 1960, and became the Model 34-1.

.22/32 Target Model 35: It got the J frame in 1960, and became the Model 35-1.

Until c. 1960, the only small frame guns built on the J frame were those chambered for the .38 Special.

Thank you for the info!

 

[Etalksalot]

Because there isn't one.


The Model 48 is a K frame chambered for the .22 Magnum Rimfire. It is essentially the same gun as the K-22 Masterpiece Model 17, but chambered for the more powerful magnum round.

The Model 51 is a J frame Kit Gun chambered for the .22 Magnum Rimfire.

The Model 53 is a K frame, but it is chambered for the .22 Jet, which is a centerfire cartridge. It also came with inserts so the .22 LR could be fired from it, giving it some versatility. But the ".22 Magnum" on the barrel is somewhat misleading. It could lead someone to believe it is intended for the .22 Magnum rimfire.

Thank you, I didn't know there was a difference between the 2. Thank you for the info I appreciate it. I learned something new today.

 

[Etalksalot]

Great effort ...... what am I missing??????

All you need is the SCS&W 4th Ed. to get the same info.................

I plan on getting one as soon as I can spare the 40 bucks to get one. This is just a reference guide for someone who my want to know about a particular model or discover another model but don't care enough about the old guns to go buy a book on the subject. I had plenty of times I wish there would've been a list like this so I could've had a few questions answered since I cannot afford the book yet. I'm sure someone out there would find this useful.

 

[jframejoey]

Model 650: Stainless Model 50

Not a .38 with adjustable. It was a fixed sighted 3 inch .22 mag.

 

[BAM-BAM]

This is just a reference guide for someone who my want to know about a particular model or discover another model but don't care enough about the old guns to go buy a book on the subject. .

Heck most folks just ask us....... and we being a bit slow (and borderline senile) keep answering their questions ...... over and over and over...........................

 

[Etalksalot]

Model 650: Stainless Model 50

Not a .38 with adjustable. It was a fixed sighted 3 inch .22 mag.

The Model 50 and 650?? I know the Model 50 was a target model 36, not sure about a 650 100 percent.


Update: Nevermind I figured it out. I looked up the 650 and it is a 22 mag. Not sure why I thought it was a stainless Model 50 (other than the obvious model number sounding like it). Thanks for the info!

 

[bigggbbruce]

I'll say it again. There's a couple fella's that sell a right nice book with all this stuff sorted out . . .

I know, however I made this list for people who aren't into these old guns enough to go spend 40 bucks on a book for a bunch of info they don't want or need.

Yep.. why spend money when I get the information I want for free.. I won't..

 

[Muss Muggins]

Yep.. why spend money when I get the information I want for free.. I won't..

Free internet advice is worth what you paid for it . . .