What is a good 22 LR rd to shoot in a Mod 17 and Mod 41.
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What is a good 22 LR rd to shoot in a Mod 17 and Mod 41.
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flop-shank
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For target shooting I'm guessing?
302, scroll down the page a little, I asked about 22 ammo preferences and got a lot of good input as to what everybody is using, that said I have been really liking American Eagle(federal)in my model 17 ,38 grain copper covered hollow points. Pigman
Texas Star
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Remington is pretty dirty and jams my guns. I use CCI.
But I had good results with Winchester when I could find it more easily. Local dealers stock little good .22 ammo. What is this country coming to?!
T-Star
But I had good results with Winchester when I could find it more easily. Local dealers stock little good .22 ammo. What is this country coming to?!
T-Star
arkypete
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I ceased using Remington 22 RF when I shot Bullseye. Got 2 or 3 misfires per box of 50.
Had great luck with Winchester and CCI.
Jim
Had great luck with Winchester and CCI.
Jim
Rich S
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my experience with Remington .22's is the same as arkypete,i suppose i could tolerate a dud or two per brick with cheapy weapy .22's but i paid full freight for some vipers and they had several duds per box. it was bad enough with the misfires that i took a bunch of the golden saber ammo i had out of my carry gun. i realize that the ammo is different but a company that could turn out such bad rimfire ammo can't be much good at centerfire stuff or quality control, either way it made me doubt remington enough to go get some golddots, and i avoid their ammo now. ymmv
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Rich
Regards,
Rich
Gatofeo
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More than any other caliber, the .22 rimfire is a diverse lot.
Buy a variety of ammo and run it through your guns from a benchrest, at real targets, from a measured 25 yards.
Shooting tin cans will tell you nothing.
I have a Model 17 made in the early 1990s.
Of about 12 different brands and bullet makes, it shoots most accurately with:
Federal Classic 40 gr. solid.
Federal Gold Medal 40 gr. solid.
The worst groups -- six bullets in a 6 inch circle at 25 yards from a benchrest -- came from Aguila 60 gr. Sniper Subsonic. Obviously, the M-17's rifling can't stabilize that long, heavy bullet.
But your own pistols may shoot entirely different from mine. And your revolver may prefer one brand and type that your autoloader doesn't like.
The best thing you can do with any .22 handgun or rifle is to try a variety of brands and types, against real targets.
This will tell you volumes.
Fire at least 10 rounds at one target, and then replace the target. Write the brand and make on each target, and file it away.
This creates an excellent reference if you later forget which brand works best in which gun.
Buy a variety of ammo and run it through your guns from a benchrest, at real targets, from a measured 25 yards.
Shooting tin cans will tell you nothing.
I have a Model 17 made in the early 1990s.
Of about 12 different brands and bullet makes, it shoots most accurately with:
Federal Classic 40 gr. solid.
Federal Gold Medal 40 gr. solid.
The worst groups -- six bullets in a 6 inch circle at 25 yards from a benchrest -- came from Aguila 60 gr. Sniper Subsonic. Obviously, the M-17's rifling can't stabilize that long, heavy bullet.
But your own pistols may shoot entirely different from mine. And your revolver may prefer one brand and type that your autoloader doesn't like.
The best thing you can do with any .22 handgun or rifle is to try a variety of brands and types, against real targets.
This will tell you volumes.
Fire at least 10 rounds at one target, and then replace the target. Write the brand and make on each target, and file it away.
This creates an excellent reference if you later forget which brand works best in which gun.
beemerrider
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Try Standard Velocity Rem, Win, CCI or Eley. We always had best results shooting Std. velocity when competing in Bullseye competition. We used to get several shooters together and "make a buy", thus reducing cost.
The only way to know is to go to the range with several different boxes of ammo and try 'em all in your pistols to see what works best. As others have pointed out, 22s tend to be finicky when it comes to ammo. Personally, I avoid Remington's 22LR ammo because NONE of my 22s, be they rifles or pistols, works well with it. My best luck has been with Federal Auto Match, Winchester Super-X and CCI Mini-Mags. YMMV
Gatofeo
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On a side note:
I used to carry a little Iver Johnson TP22 loaded with Speer Pistol Match ammo when I hunted elk and deer outside of St. Maries, Idaho.
It would barely function the action, sometimes not at all.
But I didn't care. The advantage was that because such ammo is below the speed of sound (which is about 1,100 fps) it was very quiet.
Bagged a couple of grouse with that little pistol. Heck, I've f**rted louder than it reported (especially with Gatofeo's Biohazard Chili!).
Standard velocity ammo is often not only more accurate, but very quiet if it doesn't reach the speed of sound.
I used to carry a little Iver Johnson TP22 loaded with Speer Pistol Match ammo when I hunted elk and deer outside of St. Maries, Idaho.
It would barely function the action, sometimes not at all.
But I didn't care. The advantage was that because such ammo is below the speed of sound (which is about 1,100 fps) it was very quiet.
Bagged a couple of grouse with that little pistol. Heck, I've f**rted louder than it reported (especially with Gatofeo's Biohazard Chili!).
Standard velocity ammo is often not only more accurate, but very quiet if it doesn't reach the speed of sound.
crofoot629
Absent Comrade
I know it goes against the grain with most posters, but my 3rd Model K22 (Pre-17) loves the bulk 550 round boxes of Remington. I’ve shot many thousands of them and surely I Must have had some duds, but I don’t recall any.
But as others of had said, you’ll just have to try different flavors.
Emory
But as others of had said, you’ll just have to try different flavors.
Emory
tomf52
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Personally, if I had enough Remington .22 ammo, I would put it all in a sack and use it for a boat anchor!
Hermann
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Remington -> no more for me, dirty and sometimes no bang for the buck
Federal -> YES!
Federal -> YES!
Andy Griffith
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IMHO, Winchester Super-X is the best and most consistent ammunition on the market. Specifically, the X22LR and X22LRHP product numbers.
They are also the most expensive in their class, and the hardest to find.
Anyway, the Federal bulk packs are pretty good for the price, when you can find them. I wouldn't count on them for the best groups though if I were shooting groundhogs at 50+ yards, but squirrels, handguns and plinking, they are great. Get the regular Federal Classics or above Winchesters for that.
I haven't had good luck with the Remington bulk packs either- usually one in twenty-five is a dud, and others fail to eject.
BTW- new Winchester ammunition is made in 'ole Mississippi rather than Illinois. I have yet to shoot any of the new Winchester .22 from Mississippi.
They are also the most expensive in their class, and the hardest to find.
Anyway, the Federal bulk packs are pretty good for the price, when you can find them. I wouldn't count on them for the best groups though if I were shooting groundhogs at 50+ yards, but squirrels, handguns and plinking, they are great. Get the regular Federal Classics or above Winchesters for that.
I haven't had good luck with the Remington bulk packs either- usually one in twenty-five is a dud, and others fail to eject.
BTW- new Winchester ammunition is made in 'ole Mississippi rather than Illinois. I have yet to shoot any of the new Winchester .22 from Mississippi.
Ever since the Remington ThunderBolt 22rf ammo fiasco a few years ago where the bullets appeared to be pure lead and left the bore nearly impassable after a cylinder or mag of shots, I've turned away from Rem.
I used to use alot of that stuff just for plinking, etc.
I recently bought a couple of 500rd bulk boxes of Winchester '22Dynapoint'. It's a hollowpoint round, which I didn't necessarily want but again it was something affordable and just for plinking.
The stuff is remarkably accurate, clean shooting ammo. The H/P cavity is so small that it hasn't given me any problems feeding in a couple of semiautos. It will refuse to operate a Walther PPk and a Colt ACE pistol (early 1930's mfg.), though in fairness to both of those, I've had the best functioning with known HV rounds in both.
It does perform like a standard vel round, which would seem odd for a hollow point, but these days,,I'll believe anything.
Box says 'made by Win. in E.Alton, Ill.' ,,maybe thats just the cardboard box,,and the ammo is from Bangladesh
I used to use alot of that stuff just for plinking, etc.
I recently bought a couple of 500rd bulk boxes of Winchester '22Dynapoint'. It's a hollowpoint round, which I didn't necessarily want but again it was something affordable and just for plinking.
The stuff is remarkably accurate, clean shooting ammo. The H/P cavity is so small that it hasn't given me any problems feeding in a couple of semiautos. It will refuse to operate a Walther PPk and a Colt ACE pistol (early 1930's mfg.), though in fairness to both of those, I've had the best functioning with known HV rounds in both.
It does perform like a standard vel round, which would seem odd for a hollow point, but these days,,I'll believe anything.
Box says 'made by Win. in E.Alton, Ill.' ,,maybe thats just the cardboard box,,and the ammo is from Bangladesh
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Wow, I was in Wally World and half remembered this thread, and thought to buy some bulk pack 22. Got to the counter and they had both Rem and Federal, now which was it?? I remembered it as being Federal so bought 4 cartons, looks like I remembered correctly, can't remember the last time I did that!!
I posted this in the other thread as well-
Maybe this flies in the face of what everyone else seems to think, but I've had more trouble with CCI .22 ammo over the course of the last 35 years than any other brand. I'm speaking of inconsistencies in velocity over the chrono, misfires etc. As fas as accuracy goes, the single most consistantly accurate .22 ammo I've used is Remington Yellow Jackets. I know that hyper velocity ammo is supposedly less accurate than regular high speed or standard velocity ammo, but that hasn't been my findings in a variety of .22 rifles. I haven't fired my current .22 handguns enough to tell yet, but I'm going to fix that tomorrow hopefully.
Maybe this flies in the face of what everyone else seems to think, but I've had more trouble with CCI .22 ammo over the course of the last 35 years than any other brand. I'm speaking of inconsistencies in velocity over the chrono, misfires etc. As fas as accuracy goes, the single most consistantly accurate .22 ammo I've used is Remington Yellow Jackets. I know that hyper velocity ammo is supposedly less accurate than regular high speed or standard velocity ammo, but that hasn't been my findings in a variety of .22 rifles. I haven't fired my current .22 handguns enough to tell yet, but I'm going to fix that tomorrow hopefully.
I've had less than sterling success with Remington 22 ammo, the cheap stuff. Their standard velocity is okay. I was shooting some Remington HV hollow-points at the range just the other day in my 617 6", and after about 30 rounds had one odd squib the likes of which I've never encountered in all of my years (and 10s of thousands of 22 rounds fired) of shooting. I fired several shots, then had what I thought was a dud, hammer fell but no bang or sound whatever. I stopped shooting momentarily, and suddenly heard a very strange whistling sound, almost like a round passing by my head (if you've ever been shot at you'll know what that sounds like). The whistling noise came about 1-2 seconds after the dud hammer-fall. I decided to stop shooting until I could see what the deal was and quickly discovered that the bullet was lodged about 3" down the barrel. Another shot probably would have bulged and damaged the barrel. I had to push it out with a cleaning rod.
Gatofeo, I'm intrigued by your experience with the Aguila Sniper Subsonic stuff, I just picked up a couple of boxes of that to try out. Guess I'll shoot them out of the 10/22 (I'm curious to see how it functions) or the 52 instead of the 617!
Gatofeo, I'm intrigued by your experience with the Aguila Sniper Subsonic stuff, I just picked up a couple of boxes of that to try out. Guess I'll shoot them out of the 10/22 (I'm curious to see how it functions) or the 52 instead of the 617!
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