Mine is one of the newer models without the salt wood. It has a composite stock which is great for hunting. I love the magazine. I got it off GB years ago. The owner messaged me and told me he was a gunsmith and had worked the trigger over. I agree as it has a very nice trigger and it shoots very very well. In any event I am happy with it. I also have a CZ 455 in 22 mag, BRNO 1, BRNO 2 and BRNO 2E which looks like a CZ 452.
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THE BEST 22LR RIFLE I HAVE EVER SHOT IN MY LIFE!
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Mine is one of the newer models without the salt wood. It has a composite stock which is great for hunting. I love the magazine. I got it off GB years ago. The owner messaged me and told me he was a gunsmith and had worked the trigger over. I agree as it has a very nice trigger and it shoots very very well. In any event I am happy with it. I also have a CZ 455 in 22 mag, BRNO 1, BRNO 2 and BRNO 2E which looks like a CZ 452.
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All my rifle targets have been shot outdoors. The only indoor shooting I do is with handguns. My old club that I belonged to for 30 years had a 200 yard rifle range and one of the clubs I currently belong to has a 300 yard range.
I have never used a machine rest - just a bunch of sandbags. The 25 yard and 50 yard groups are gettable all day long with the CZ453 but the 100 yard groups are less frequent obviously - mostly do to me, the wind, the weather or whatever.
I will be perfectly honest - until I bough this rifle I did not think accuracy like this was even achievable. Up until I purchased the CZ, the most accurate rifles I have shot were the Browning T Bolt and an Anschutz (don't recall the model as it was not mine). Since getting this CZ I have not been able to match the groupings with any other rifle, regardless of cost - although I have certainly tried. I have shot my CZ for 20 years now and I am certainly quite comfortable with it. That was the whole purpose behind the thread. If you don't believe this is possible and doubt my word - that is certainly your choice. No one here can control what you think but I have no reason to BS anyone. I have never in all the years posting here, misrepresented a target and I do post a few from time to time. I am NOT bragging but I consider myself a pretty darn good shot. At 70 years old and using only iron sights I can usually outshoot anyone with a handgun with a red dot or laser. The only two scopes I own are both on 22 rifles and I do not own any optical or electronic sights at all. I was the only shooter on my club's pistol team that shot with factory iron sights. I still do not wear glasses (except cheaters for reading) and I do not fish!
Here are some other targets that I saved over the years and they are all true as to what is written on the targets. Some of them were done with friend's guns that I had never shot before including splitting a playing card with a Colt 22 Peacemaker. Some were shot with my own guns. There is one target shot with my CZ 453 at 175 feet - the longest target we had set up in my friends yard that day. We only measured it after I shot - hence the strange shooting distance. Again, not trying to brag - but I can shoot.
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I have a Marlin M39A from 1946 and it is also pretty accurate (see post #42 - second target from left)). I cherish it because it belonged to my Dad. That said, I also have a Winchester 9422 XTR that isn't as comfortable because of the short carbine length, but it is more accurate. It also has a very very low round count through it while my Marlin 39A has 10's and 10's of thousand's of rounds through it. If I had to choose which one to get rid of if I had to - it would be the Winchester. The 39A will go with me! LOL!!
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AJ
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Had to take my Winchester 52D to that range as I was having trigger issues with it and had it out of the stock. Had to rezero the rifle, this was done at 50 yards with iron sights. Groups are five shots each.
Wish we were all closer together so we could get together and shoot.
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I have a 1973 Glenfield Model 60 given me by my father.
My grandsons are happily plinking away with it.
My grandsons are happily plinking away with it.
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Rusty,
Those are the best. I have a Savage Model 7 that my Grandfather bought in 1938. He gave it to me in 1961, and I gave it to my Grandson in 2007. My Wifes Glenfield Model 60 (1977) is now my Granddaughters. Hand me downs are the best!
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Nice rifle Chief. Been a big CZ fan myself for a long time. I have a 453 with a set trigger, and a 457 which is my ARA 50 yard gun. Both are way more accurate than they have a right to be. They both do their best with Eley and SK match ammo. And it seems to me that my new to me 1933 Winchester 52 is partial to SK Standard and Wolf Match, both affordable, and shooting sub 1 inch at 100 yards.
A real sleeper is my Kimber .22 Hunter. It is a solid 1/3 inch rifle for five shots at 50 yards. Sporter weight barrel and stock. And its favorite ammo is a particular lot # of CCI Velocitors of all things. Down to my last brick. Any other lot # won't come close in accuracy.
Day in and day out, I have found CCI SV and Eley Contact to be very consistent ammo in a variety of rifles for not much $$. That expensive match ammo is not really needed unless you are shooting for absolute group size, and only if your rifle likes it.
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A real sleeper is my Kimber .22 Hunter. It is a solid 1/3 inch rifle for five shots at 50 yards. Sporter weight barrel and stock. And its favorite ammo is a particular lot # of CCI Velocitors of all things. Down to my last brick. Any other lot # won't come close in accuracy.
Day in and day out, I have found CCI SV and Eley Contact to be very consistent ammo in a variety of rifles for not much $$. That expensive match ammo is not really needed unless you are shooting for absolute group size, and only if your rifle likes it.
Larry
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CZ rifles are hit or miss. This CZ453 Varmint for example will turn in some superb 100 yard groups around 1/2 MOA about half the time and around 1.5 MOA the other half of the time.
On the other hand this CZ 453 American is a very consistent 1 MOA rifle at 100 yards.
On the other hand this CZ 453 American is a very consistent 1 MOA rifle at 100 yards.
Got one of the 452 trainers when they came out, and it is indeed a very accurate rifle. Then got the 22 mag version, and when scoped is literally a tack driver at 100 yds (when i was younger). Am not doubting the pictured groups at all.
Also have other cz rifles, and all but several are very accurate. However CZ's are not infallible, and imo the earlier versions had more quality control.
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I guess there will always be variations within a rifle brands individual examples even within the exact same model - just as some here report no issues with their S&W revolvers while others have horror stories. I do not doubt that at all.
Like I have said before, I have personally fitted sights, sighted in and adjusted set triggers on 8 other CZ 453's and set up one 452 (could not get a 453). All are superbly accurate including the 452 which is essentially the same rifle without a single set trigger. That trigger was tweaked a little and while there is no set feature, the trigger pull is incredible!
I general, I find and choose CCI standard velocity 40 grain as the most accurate in my semi auto pistols. I like the Mini-Mags in my 22 revolvers and they seem to like them the best in the accuracy department. Mini-Mags also work the best in my 22 rifles, maybe with the exception of my Marlin 39A. I am still up in the air with that one. I keep going between the Mini's and the Standard. It could be just me on a particular day. I have been at the point for over a decade now that I do not consider buying anything else other than CCI 22's. I still have a lot of other brands to use up on steel targets where they just have to hit them and ring - precision isn't as important.
BTW, there are slight differences between lot numbers and individual bricks of 22's even within the same case. When switching from an old brick to a new one or to a new case, I do find a slight bit of tweaking the sights or scope is required. When I am shooting in a competition, match or against competitive friends just for laughs, I always make sure I have ammo from the same Brick.
Like I have said before, I have personally fitted sights, sighted in and adjusted set triggers on 8 other CZ 453's and set up one 452 (could not get a 453). All are superbly accurate including the 452 which is essentially the same rifle without a single set trigger. That trigger was tweaked a little and while there is no set feature, the trigger pull is incredible!
I general, I find and choose CCI standard velocity 40 grain as the most accurate in my semi auto pistols. I like the Mini-Mags in my 22 revolvers and they seem to like them the best in the accuracy department. Mini-Mags also work the best in my 22 rifles, maybe with the exception of my Marlin 39A. I am still up in the air with that one. I keep going between the Mini's and the Standard. It could be just me on a particular day. I have been at the point for over a decade now that I do not consider buying anything else other than CCI 22's. I still have a lot of other brands to use up on steel targets where they just have to hit them and ring - precision isn't as important.
BTW, there are slight differences between lot numbers and individual bricks of 22's even within the same case. When switching from an old brick to a new one or to a new case, I do find a slight bit of tweaking the sights or scope is required. When I am shooting in a competition, match or against competitive friends just for laughs, I always make sure I have ammo from the same Brick.
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What is your trigger pull? The trigger on my favorite 52D is a 2.4 ounces, using an electronic trigger pull gage.
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AJ - Is that the factory trigger on your 52D? When I picked up my pre-A model 52 with the speed lock it was adjusted crazy light, well under a pound. Problem was 50 / 50 chance it would fire if you tapped the butt, or worked the bolt too hard. Adjusted it up to about 1 1/2 lbs and it now seems safe. I want to carry it out tree rat hunting this year, and it just wasn't safe that light.
I believe the 52D used a more modern adjustable trigger than was used on the pre-Micro Motion triggers?
Larry
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Larry,
It is and it isn't. I will explain. I had the factory trigger set at 1 pound of pull after I bought the rifle from CMP. I shot it that way for years. One day at the range it stopped resetting when you cycled the bolt. There is a gentleman on RFC who modifies the 52D triggers. He sets them up the same way Karl Kenyon did. ( karl kenyon trigger - Google Search ). When I got it back from dokey on RFC, it was set at 2.4 ounces. Mine will pass the "Bump" test as I call it. Once I adjust a trigger on any rifle, I cock it and bump the butt on the ground to see if it will fire. If it does I adjust it to a heavier trigger pull. I have a 40X at 11.3 ounces, a 52E at 6.9 ounces, a Swedish CG-63 at 1.5 pounds and several M1911's at 2.12 pounds. I like light triggers.
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I had a 541T about 30 years ago. All I remember about it was it was 1 MOA with any ammo and replacement mags didn't exist. I didn't have a 22 for a long time and needed to replace that Remington when I moved to the country. I shouldn't have sold it.
There's a used one at Cabela's in Rogers MN for $2300.
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My personal go-to for my best accurate .22 is a 20+ y.o. Ruger 77/22 that is SS/Laminate stock. With the right ammo, it is truly impressive. Amazing what it can do with Remington 'Viper' hyper-velocity ammo, and on Crows out past 100 yards.
A friend's CZ 455 (?) was truly impressive. Recall a time we were at a private range - we'd pressed several #209 shotshell primers into cardboard backing. At 50 yards, and with a high-power variable Burris scope and match ammo, we could bust those 209 primers! Would blow a 1.5" hole in the cardboard, and HAD to be hit in the exact center! A 'side' hit would not suffice.
Have to say - that was damn fun!
I'm sure my Ruger could be better - it has a low-end Simmons 3-9x on it, not much of a scope.
A friend's CZ 455 (?) was truly impressive. Recall a time we were at a private range - we'd pressed several #209 shotshell primers into cardboard backing. At 50 yards, and with a high-power variable Burris scope and match ammo, we could bust those 209 primers! Would blow a 1.5" hole in the cardboard, and HAD to be hit in the exact center! A 'side' hit would not suffice.
Have to say - that was damn fun!
I'm sure my Ruger could be better - it has a low-end Simmons 3-9x on it, not much of a scope.
The Ruger 77/22 can shoot but they often take some work.
They normally require work in three areas.
1. Ruger designed them like the M77 where the receiver beds at four points in the same horizontal plane which theoretically makes it easy to kill the stock and get good machine bedding. In theory. In practice not so much, as the wood isn’t entirely stable. Consequently when I tried to free float the barrel on mine it kept settling to the new low spot in the barrel channel as the front of the action wasn’t supported in the stock.
Bedding under the barrel block, under the tang and at the flats behind the magazine well levels it all up. You then need to seal the inside of the stock to keep it stable. Laminated stocks are much better accuracy wise as they are half glue by weight and are very stable.
2. The two piece bolt needs to be shimmed for minimum head space for maximum accuracy, but shim kits are cheap and it’s easy to do.
3. The trigger can be substantially improved by replacing it with a Timney or Rifle Basix trigger.
Mine went from around 2.5 MOa to around 1.25 MOA. It still won’t shoot with most of my CZs but it’s still very good sporter accuracy.
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OK, I'll play. My two best rifles are a Remington Rangemaster #37 and a Magnum Research 10-22.The Rangemaster was my father's and is 70 years old. The big orange
Dot was with the Rangemaster CCI-SV 5 shot cold bore, 50 yds. on a cold but fairly calm March last year. Measured .227 CTC. This rifle groups Eley Match or Tenex best but due to expense I'll only use that in a grudge match. CCI-SV works in all my rifles and pistols. The little dot was CCI-SV at 100 yards which I rarely shoot. I do wonder what Match could have done.
The sight in target shows a ten shot group from my Magnum Research 10-22.at 50 yds. It shoots Eley Club best. But this too was CCI-SV. Somewhere near a quarter inch CTC there was no inner smudge for calipers so it's under a 1/2" outside to outside. I don't think I've ever shot a better ten shot group. Sandbags on the 37 a cheap bipod on the 10-22.
But the facts are they are both accurate rifles. Everything else is up to the God's. Will my 75 yr. old trigger finger spaz? Will the cheap ammo have a touch to much or to little powder? I'm outdoors with the Blue Ridge Mountains on one side and the Shenandoah River on the other. A calm day is rare.
Dot was with the Rangemaster CCI-SV 5 shot cold bore, 50 yds. on a cold but fairly calm March last year. Measured .227 CTC. This rifle groups Eley Match or Tenex best but due to expense I'll only use that in a grudge match. CCI-SV works in all my rifles and pistols. The little dot was CCI-SV at 100 yards which I rarely shoot. I do wonder what Match could have done.
The sight in target shows a ten shot group from my Magnum Research 10-22.at 50 yds. It shoots Eley Club best. But this too was CCI-SV. Somewhere near a quarter inch CTC there was no inner smudge for calipers so it's under a 1/2" outside to outside. I don't think I've ever shot a better ten shot group. Sandbags on the 37 a cheap bipod on the 10-22.
But the facts are they are both accurate rifles. Everything else is up to the God's. Will my 75 yr. old trigger finger spaz? Will the cheap ammo have a touch to much or to little powder? I'm outdoors with the Blue Ridge Mountains on one side and the Shenandoah River on the other. A calm day is rare.
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AJ
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I liked the Remington 37's that I had. Great old guns!
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A few years ago I realized that I didn't have a truly accurate .22 rifle in my safe. I purchased a Savage Mk-II FVT. The synthetic stock was terrible, so I put it in the Boyd in this picture.
At the range, while others are blasting away willy nilly, I take my time and put all of my rounds (it really likes CCI Standard Velocity) in one cloverleaf.
At the range, while others are blasting away willy nilly, I take my time and put all of my rounds (it really likes CCI Standard Velocity) in one cloverleaf.
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