27-1 Nickel 3 1/2"

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Greetings,

I recently came across what appears to be a true and correct, unmolested 27-1 in a pretty scarce configuration. I do not have a ton of knowledge relating to 27-1's but I do know they were only produced for a little over 1 year. The one I came across is a 3.5" nickel example. Overall, the condition is quite good, I'd say a solid 95% with no noticeable stand-out imperfections. The nickel finish and top strap checking were pretty crisp and clean. The blued front sight with red ramp with 2 proud pins contrasting against the nickel is quite beautiful. The rear sight also had the white-outline. The only down side is that it's wearing later era football relief target stocks...obviously incorrect for the year of the gun. I would assume it should have the diamond N-fame magna stocks. All mechanics checked out, markings were correct, and on all parts of the gun where they should be. Under the targets, the factory "N" for nickel was present with no rework stampings or date codes. Serial numbers matched on frame, under the crane, and under ejector star. The cylinder had the "L" stamping for the left handed thread, but no "N" on the cylinder face like I've seen on other nickel guns. Does that seem correct? One other note, the ejector rod shroud did not have any signs of a serial number like I usually see on most Smith's. Any insight from you experts is welcomed! I'm also curious as to what is a fair price to see or expect to pay in the current market...gun only with incorrect stocks, no box or extras. Thanks in advance.
 
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Only made for one year (1960) so there can't be many. Don't know what the count is on 27-1s but there are only about 40 known 29-1s. I don't think the lack of an N on the rear of the cylinder is an issue; I've seen other nickel guns that had it only on the frame. In fact as I think about it I have a 3.5 inch 27-2 that doesn't have an N on the cylinder. The stocks probably should be football cut out diamond targets or perhaps diamond magnas. Value, no idea really but if they're as scarce as 29-1s value must be in excess of $3500 and perhaps a substantial premium on that for nickel and 3.5 inch. Someone will be along who knows much more about the 27-1s I'm sure. We would love to see pictures of course.

Jeff
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I Think your 27-1 is a transition revolver and was manufactured the way you received it. The Grips are probably not correct, the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson says the grips with the football cutout was used from about 1967 to 1980. Your revolver mfgd 1960 should have targets that have the diamonds. I don't think M-27 were shipped with Cokes. Cokes were standard on early M-29s and fairly common on early M-57s BUT could be ordered on on other models. A letter could tell you or If you a member of the SWCA you could ask Roy Jinks.
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Check GB closed auctions. One sold with box last December for $3530. Looks much as you describe, no N on cylinder but there is an L and an N on the frame and diamond magnas. Someone got a deal or the 27-1s aren't as scarce as I assumed they might be.

Jeff
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Greetings,

I recently came across what appears to be a true and correct, unmolested 27-1 in a pretty scarce configuration... Under the targets, the factory "N" for nickel was present with no rework stampings or date codes. Serial numbers matched on frame, under the crane, and under ejector star. The cylinder had the "L" stamping for the left handed thread, but no "N" on the cylinder face like I've seen on other nickel guns. Does that seem correct?

If there is an "N" on the cylinder (which there might not be), it is probably a smaller "N" stamped under the star. All the rest of the stampings are consistent with what I've seen on 27-1s.



Grips are fairly easy to find... :) 3.5" Nickel 27's of any variety are not easy to find. I would expect that a 27-1 3.5" Nickel would be a fairly active auction on GB and it could get pretty pricey. But I do not have any idea (in this market) what the price would be when the bidding stopped. It probably depends on how many beers the bidders have had that evening...:eek:;)

WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME PHOTOS!!!
 
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If there is an "N" on the cylinder (which there might not be), it is probably a smaller "N" stamped under the star. All the rest of the stampings are consistent with what I've seen on 27-1s.


WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME PHOTOS!!!

Thanks for the informative replies. I will work on getting some photos should I end up acquiring the piece...just trying to best educate myself. Richard, other 27-1's you've seen lack the serial number under the ejector rod on the shroud as well?
 
... Richard, other 27-1's you've seen lack the serial number under the ejector rod on the shroud as well?

Yes. I just checked one of mine and it does NOT have a SN in the shroud, nor does it have a SN on the cylinder. I cannot remember exactly when S&W stopped the practice of "soft fitting" (I think late 1950s - someone correct me if I'm wrong) but the stamping of SNs on the parts stopped when that happened.

... Also, grips are easy (and sometimes fun) to replace.:) This nickel pre-27 came to me with non matching grips, so I put a set of Keith Brown smooth maple presentation stocks on it. I think it looks great.



 
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-1 model variations do not have the serial number stamped in the extractor rod shroud or on the rear surface of the cylinder as this was discontinued in May 1957. There should be an N stamped on the lower left hand corner of the grip frame and "possibly" under the extractor. The front sight blade and ramp should be blue and pinned to the barrel with two pins that are not polished flush to the barrel rib. Most -1 model variations were shipped in 1962. I am reasonably sure the original stocks would have been Magna type numbered to the revolver.

Bill
 
A friend of mine who happened to work for the county sheriff(Livingston county Illinois) right out of high school(his first firearm)bought a new in the box nickel 27-2 when he turned 21 and as far as I know still owns it?
Steve
 
I'm pretty sure mine doesn't have the N stamp on the cylinder, only the L. I can double check and let you know. Can't wait to see pics! Very scarce is an understatement!
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Thanks for all the helpful information. Unfortunately, I was not able make a deal happen on this. By the time I was ready to give it a second look, it was gone. Live and learn, I guess I shouldn't have let it out of my hands in the first place! :D
 
Thanks for all the helpful information. Unfortunately, I was not able make a deal happen on this. By the time I was ready to give it a second look, it was gone. Live and learn, I guess I shouldn't have let it out of my hands in the first place! :D
Sheesh....was was the tag price on it?
 
I know I have let a "gem" get away because of my lack of knowledge at the time I was viewing the gun. That is why I try to soak up as much of the information, I get here on the forum, as I can. It has worked in some cases.:)
Larry
 
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