gabrielebosetti
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Hi all!
I’d like to know which are the length barrel more rare version.
Thank you
I’d like to know which are the length barrel more rare version.
Thank you
27 rarity
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The Model 27 with the 18.75-inch barrel is excruciatingly rare. So much so that not only have I never seen one, I’ve never even heard of one!
Sorry, I’m attempting to be funny. I’m actually curious also so consider this a free thread bump.
Sorry, I’m attempting to be funny. I’m actually curious also so consider this a free thread bump.
Hair Trigger
US Veteran
Not sure about how rare, but the 3-1/2" and 5" barrels seem to be more desired than the 4" and 6" versions. The 3-1/2 and 5" were discontinued in 1979 in favor of the 4", 6"; 6-1/2" and 8-3/8" were also available. the 4" and 8-3/8" barrels were discontinued in 1992 with the M29-5 series.
The most coveted barrel length in my experience is the 3-1/2" version. The 4" barrel was catalogued for a very short time, three years I think, so that barrel length is probably the fewest in number. Many believe the 5" barrel has the best balance of all others and I would agree with that.
Speaking of 27s with the 18.75" barrels. Im actively seeking a blue box for mine. Must have a factory orig. end label.
Dang!...All I have in my stash is a gold picture box in that length...It's the short one for Magna grips, it won't close completely on target grips...
...Ben4" by far...
Even though it appears the 3 1/2" is the most sought after, the actual "rarest" one in my humble opinion is the 4"...hope this helps you...Roger
Even though it appears the 3 1/2" is the most sought after, the actual "rarest" one in my humble opinion is the 4"...hope this helps you...Roger
In my experience, the 6 1/2 inch is the hardest to find.
I all ready have the common 18.75" cleaning rod and SAT in the sealed bag. Sorry Sevens, has to be the blue box. I have gold boxes by the stack!
Barbarian-CBX
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There is no such thing as an 18.75" barrel Model 27. They were 18 3/8" barrels. They employed a smooth bore. The bullet came out like a knuckle ball. Pretty sure they were marked 27-0.01.
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bob1956
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Seen and owned a few 4” nickle 27’s but have only seen one blued one a dumpster diver had it. I should hav bought it. There’s probably more around. But I don’t get out much!
22hipower
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I'm sure there are quite a few of them out there but this is the only one I've ever had a chance to buy.
Jeff
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https://flic.kr/p/2n8RFiB https://www.flickr.com/photos/194934231@N03/Here's an old list of "cataloged" barrel lengths I put together
Might be helpful in determining relative estimates of the different barrel lengths of the M27 that were offered over the years (1946 to 1994).......
As you can see, the 4" was the one "least" offered in this time period.....
Might be helpful in determining relative estimates of the different barrel lengths of the M27 that were offered over the years (1946 to 1994).......
As you can see, the 4" was the one "least" offered in this time period.....
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WCCPHD
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Maybe the 6 1/2" no dash might fit in that category. Fortunately I have one, near mint.
I was lucky enough to find a 6 1/2 inch, no dash with "Cokes." I found it in a local gun shop that caters to "black gun" buyers. They had it marked at $574.95. Didn't take me long to buy it.
I think when asking rare barrel lengths, it can vary on which dash version. Ie; 4” -2’s are likely more scarce as they were only featured the last few years of the -2 series, where as a 4” -3 is probably more common.
As for standard production barrel lengths, the -7 (prelocks) are scarce as reportedly only 200 were made. 100 in 4” and 100 in 6.5”.
Here’s 4" #24. Would like to have same number in longer version...
As for standard production barrel lengths, the -7 (prelocks) are scarce as reportedly only 200 were made. 100 in 4” and 100 in 6.5”.
Here’s 4" #24. Would like to have same number in longer version...
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lrb1200
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Might be helpful in determining relative estimates of the different barrel lengths of the M27 that were offered over the years (1946 to 1994).......
As you can see, the 4" was the one "least" offered in this time period.....
Well, since you are including the early post war years starting in 1946, this post war Transitional with 8 1/2” barrel and pre-production target grips shipped in May of 1948 may be one of the rarest of all; anyone aware of another post war N frame .357 Magnum with an 8 1/2” barrel?
Photo credit - RKmesa
Mr. Lester:
Do I assume correctly from your letter that your gun did not ship with the pre-production target grips? They look like Goncalo Alves, rather than walnut, and there is no mention in the letter about target stocks being fitted on this gun at the factory.
Beautiful gun and in probably the rarest configuration of them all.
Do I assume correctly from your letter that your gun did not ship with the pre-production target grips? They look like Goncalo Alves, rather than walnut, and there is no mention in the letter about target stocks being fitted on this gun at the factory.
Beautiful gun and in probably the rarest configuration of them all.
Actually, there is. Mine has the 18 3/4" barrel and came equipped with the 3Ts on a round butt frame and the Silhouette 4 position front sight. It came with a factory letter signed by Mr. Roy Hijinks.
wbraswell
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Remember that rare doesn't always corelate to value.
I had one of those 18 3/4 Model 27s, but I bubba-fitzed it.
I had one of those 18 3/4 Model 27s, but I bubba-fitzed it.
That’s an excellent question. It’s certainly true that the letter does not state anything about target grips and thus the gun was apparently originally shipped with the post war Magna grips. However, based on the absolutely perfect fit of the target grips to this gun (and I mean PERFECT), the checkering pattern similarity to other very early factory target grips, the correct post war medallions, and the serial number being annotated in ink on the underside of both grips, I believe the original owner, Mr. Eltinge Warner, had the factory build these grips specifically for this gun sometime shortly after it was originally shipped. Unfortunately I can’t prove that with factory documentation.
If you want to read more about this gun, and see many more pictures of it and the grips, go to my original thread on it at Mr. E. F. Warner’s 8.5 Inch Post War .357 Magnum Transitional Revolver
austintexas
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The 4 inch blue and Nickel were the hardest to find for my collection. I collect 5 screw models but my 4 inchers were 3 screw. I'm still on the lookout for 4 inch 5 screw models.
SWCA 892
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Maybe the 6 1/2" no dash might fit in that category. Fortunately I have one, near mint.
You're right. I lucked into this one last year.
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rubiranch
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I sold my 1957 4" pre-27 for close to double for what I got for my
1955 3.5" pre-27.
Both LNIB. Both in excellent condition. Both very beautiful S&W revolvers.
I would have to think the rarest would have to be some oddball
barrel length Registered Magnum.
THE PILGRIM
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The only 27 shown that I have never seen is the 8 1/2 Barrel.
So to me that’s the Rarest.
So to me that’s the Rarest.
hkcavalier
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One thing to watch out for with those 18.75" barrels is excessive corrosion on the underside where the support hand rests.
