Well, today I'm getting my 2nd vaccination, so I'm happy. Wife still won't get vaccine, neither will my 20yr. old girl. So last night she shows me a picture of one of her dry-cleaner customers who died supposedly after getting his 2nd shot. There was a nice write-up of him in the paper today. He was a long time TV newsman, started churches for the African American community in PGH, was actually supposedly wellknown world wide among some leaders. very well-respected among all, honorary doctorates for his achievements, etc. etc. etc. In the paper it said no cause of death. So this is more ammo for my wife; wherever she got the 2nd shot news I don't know. I'm not arguing anymore with her. I've told her everything from I love you to Ya know, that car you drive is in my name! (That was a mistake!) Well, if this kills me, at least I won't have to get the rotator cuff surgery!!!
2nd shot today
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Congratulations on getting your second shot!
You can get your shoulder surgery.
You can get your shoulder surgery.
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I learned a long time ago, you never ever argue with an umpire or your mother.. I have used that with my wife.. This vaccine issue is a no win issue..I and my wife had both our shots and everyday we are happy we had them.we have several friends who refuse to get the shots.. I suspect that they all have heard so much about the shots they are simply not going to agree to have them no matter what..I just hope these folks do not spread the virus to someone let alone someone that they care about...
Funflyer
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I'm all for vaccinations, but only after they've been thoroughly tested/proven as safe. I consider tracking the results for a minimum of 36 months as part of that test also. In the mean time if the good lord decides it's my time to be liberated from this world, so be it.
I have a sister who was waffling,but finally got her first shot last week. My other sister just flat refuses to do it.I’m amazed at how some fear the vaccine more than having long Covid or inadvertently spreading the virus to the most vulnerable.The one who refuses to get it wanted to spend four days and three nights here. No way Jose.The hysteria that ensued was amazing! It’s become so politicized that I see them as a self defeating cult
dockmurgw
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I got my second last Friday, no problems so far. I understand a young persons reluctance to get this vaccine, if I was back in that age group I wouldn't get it either. But at my age I'm not to concerned about long term affects...I know that by getting this vaccine I'm signing up to be a lab rat, and i'm OK with that. The common theme throughout this virus fiasco is a self centered older generation that could care less about what is being done to the younger generations, so I consider my chances of a side affect a small price to pay for the medical and scientific knowledge that can be learned from it. Whatever I can do to get the POTUS to take off his mask while he's by himself claiming its his patriotic duty, I will do.
Absalom
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What is difficult to deal with is not the scepticism itself, but the utter disproportion of fear.
One of my caregivers and another close friend who helps me a lot are vaccine sceptics, although fortunately not of the political-lunatic kind that worries about Fauci profiteering and Bill Gates’ microchips.
The effectiveness of the Moderna shots that I got keeps getting confirmed by new studies, to the point that I’m not worried about interacting with them; I just need their help and don’t want them to get sick.
We keep having friendly discussions about this, but I still haven’t gotten a good explanation why non-existent, completely hypothetical and scientifically implausible future “side effects” of vaccines that were created fast, but really quite transparently, are so much more terrifying to some people than the very real well-documented Covid infections and deaths that are stiil occurring at a quite high rate, even if you quibble with some of the numbers.
One of my caregivers and another close friend who helps me a lot are vaccine sceptics, although fortunately not of the political-lunatic kind that worries about Fauci profiteering and Bill Gates’ microchips.
The effectiveness of the Moderna shots that I got keeps getting confirmed by new studies, to the point that I’m not worried about interacting with them; I just need their help and don’t want them to get sick.
We keep having friendly discussions about this, but I still haven’t gotten a good explanation why non-existent, completely hypothetical and scientifically implausible future “side effects” of vaccines that were created fast, but really quite transparently, are so much more terrifying to some people than the very real well-documented Covid infections and deaths that are stiil occurring at a quite high rate, even if you quibble with some of the numbers.
Received my second Moderna shot on Friday and I'm still feeing the affects. I've had a headache for 3 days, feel better than I did but not back to where I was before the shot. I had Covid a year or so ago. I've read that people who have had Covid can get a worse reaction from the vaccine than people who haven't had it. I had a headache that lasted a day or so after the 1st dose. Nurse told me my reaction to the second dose could be worse, she wasn't kidding! Regardless, I'm still glad I got it. I know it's a matter of personal choice and there are always people out there who for whatever reason are going to refuse to get vaccinated. I don't think we are going to be able to put this behind us until the majority of people out there do get vaccinated.
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As we speak, I just got my J&J one shot at a local supermarket pharmacy. I really did not want to get any shot but the necessity of having the shot card when and if it is required, pushed me over the edge. It took about two minutes.
It is kinda amazing to me that those who do not want to get the vaccine are more concerned about the one in several million bad reactions, to the much higher probability of getting the disease, where the death rate is so much higher!
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Exactly! All we hear about are the (guessing) .00001% of people that have bad reactions. Mrs. Refrigeration doesn't understand that. It would be nice to see Media print something like 4,378,634 people have had their vaccinations, and 4 have had bad reactions, including death. These are figures made up in my example; please don't check my math...I know it's off, but yinz know what I mean. We're all lab rats; we have been for years! Bet your bottom dollar all the important people have had their shots; we saw pictures of some getting it, including the now most important person in the world, IMO. Bah! I'm going to listen to the radio, sports, for a while.
Oh, that 3rd eye IS starting to gain its focus back. In fact, I no longer need to stick my finger in the lamp socket to communicate with my, uh, friends over in ZepenonXIn4!
germansheperd
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It’s that dog gone 98% survival/recovery rate keeping people from drinking the Kool-aid.
Please God, not again. 
ImprovedModel56Fan
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Just now, info on reactions (granted, not serious) to the second shot are seeping out. I have very little trust in those who are "selling" the shot. Even at 76, I don't know which is a greater risk, the shots or the disease. I regard them both as pretty low risk, but I don't have much to base my decision on, and I'm not so sure that others do, either.
I'm getting the shots because I am travelling to what I believe is a high-risk area (NYC) next month, but I have no argument with anyone else's choice, either way.
bigwheelzip
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On the first day I was eligible for the vaccine locally, I set the alarm to wake up early and log into the VAX website. I grabbed an appointment on Vax Day-1 at the local Publix market, January 20. When I showed up for the second jab on February 17, the nurse congratulated me for being the first fully vaccinated person at that location. The whole vaccine (Moderna)experience has been nothing but a relief.
Congratulations and good luck with yours.
Congratulations and good luck with yours.
steelslaver
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I find those who go on about the 98% survival rate hilarious. The survival rate from the 243.5 MILLION doses administered in the US is about 99.99999% There have been 15 deaths among people over 75 who have gotten the shot. BUT 3% of those over 75 die within one year. Hard to blame the Vaccine for that as people over 75 fall down dead with regularity in case you had not noticed
Besides the 99.8 survival rate does not include those who end up with stuff like long term lung, liver and kidney damage
Since they started giving the shots about four months ago a very small percentage of those who have received the shot have died FOR ANY REASON. Yesterday alone there were 310 deaths from the virus among those that had not been vaccinated.
Just how much proof do you need that your better off taking the shot?????
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our entire family unit is vaccinated... full effect this Thursday..
wife works in a group home rehab facility... she was vaccinated first because of job... I and our son finally qualified in late March.. 2nd shot late April.. I'm a cancer survivor and son is in graduate school out of state.. we can soon see each other without any fear... I may be a lab rat, but I have had so many pieces removed and used for educational purposes one more time is not an issue... I have had 2 funerals from this crud and too many people still fighting to think it is no big deal.. good luck to those that vaccinated and to those who choose not to...
wife works in a group home rehab facility... she was vaccinated first because of job... I and our son finally qualified in late March.. 2nd shot late April.. I'm a cancer survivor and son is in graduate school out of state.. we can soon see each other without any fear... I may be a lab rat, but I have had so many pieces removed and used for educational purposes one more time is not an issue... I have had 2 funerals from this crud and too many people still fighting to think it is no big deal.. good luck to those that vaccinated and to those who choose not to...
germansheperd
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What??? 44 months? So they were giving COVID 19 Shots in the middle of 2018?
There is no such thing as long term after 75. If your over 75 you’ve already planned your estate. Listen you want the shot go get it.
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steelslaver
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The 44 was a typo meant 4. My point on the people over 75 dying shortly after getting the shot was they hardly count as deaths from the shot. But, people over 75 who have died after the shot are way way way less of them than have died from the virus.
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I already had both my shots, just pointing out the KOOLAID people been drinking that convinces them the vaccine is bad. You don't want the shot fine. That is your choice. You don't care for the vaccine fine, But when you give your opinion with a number, I will be glad to point out mine right along with some actual numbers
If you posted that you just bought an XYZ 9mm I won't break into the thread with comments about percentages of people who believe the 9mm is survivalble and anyone who owns one is drinking some kind of 9mm KOOL AID. But, if I do feel free to jump all over me. LOL
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I didn't and won't get the shots. I'm not worried about getting Covid and it irritates me that people say I should get the the shot too keep from getting Covid and infecting other people. If people are worried about getting Covid let them get the shot and they will be immune from me if I get sick. If the shot doesn't make you immune why get it. Larry
You should talk with some of my friends who try to save these patients. It isn’t black and white-you live or die. The consequences can be brutal,especially if you’re a 30-40 yr old stroke survivor.
quikdraw67
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I had my 1st shot (Pfizer) Thursday. We were scheduled to get the J&J, but the pause went into place 2 days before we were scheduled to get it.
I get my 2nd on May 20th. And I'm damned glad to get it.
Covid is no joke. We both had it, we're healthy adults in our mid-50's with no underlying conditions. And it kicked our butts.
I saw my co-worker today who was on a ventilator for 2 months. He's out of the hospital and in rehab now. 60 years old, overweight, with diabetes and heart issues. How he survived is between him and God, because I though for sure I'd be sending a sympathy card to his widow.
I don't ever want to go through that again. I welcome the vaccine.
I get my 2nd on May 20th. And I'm damned glad to get it.
Covid is no joke. We both had it, we're healthy adults in our mid-50's with no underlying conditions. And it kicked our butts.
I saw my co-worker today who was on a ventilator for 2 months. He's out of the hospital and in rehab now. 60 years old, overweight, with diabetes and heart issues. How he survived is between him and God, because I though for sure I'd be sending a sympathy card to his widow.
I don't ever want to go through that again. I welcome the vaccine.
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Ever since I got my second shot, both Predator drones and unmarked helicopters have been passing overhead at my house and wherever I go. Someone from the Tri-Lateral Commission left a message on my phone as well.
Two weeks since my second Moderna and I am thoroughly enjoying being able to go places without concern. Life is good and getting better; if the weather holds, I may chronograph some 45 Auto Rim and 44/40 handloads tomorrow!
Two weeks since my second Moderna and I am thoroughly enjoying being able to go places without concern. Life is good and getting better; if the weather holds, I may chronograph some 45 Auto Rim and 44/40 handloads tomorrow!
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germansheperd
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550,000 Americans of approximately 330,000,000 died on ‘coded’ Covid. That is less than .0016 chance of dying with a 98% of recovery. Sorry I’m not going to loose my mind.
You have a better chance of being eaten by a shark.............on land.
Realistically those are flu numbers
You have a better chance of being eaten by a shark.............on land.
Realistically those are flu numbers
germansheperd
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Tell them thanks they are doing a great job since 98% recover.
steelslaver
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Just keep drinking your brand of kool aide and hope you or yours don't get it
Have I got some real estate for you lol
Please God, not again.
The list needs to be expanded to seven.
Just did a quick search on smallpox. The last case of smallpox in the US was in 1949. Think it said the last known case in the world was in 1980. This is because the smallpox vaccines prevented smallpox from continuing to spread.
So a reasonable argument could be made, is being made by some now, that everyone being vaccinated is necessary to erradicate the disease.
But, that ain't gonna happen.
I read yesterday that scientists no longer believe that herd immunity for covid is possible. This is because with the increased contagiousness of the new variants, we would need 80% of the population to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. But it is unlikely that 80% of our population will want to be vaccinated.
We are not unique in having a large minority that does not want to be vaccinated. France, for example, last I read has a higher percentage.
I think the good news, though, is that the vaccines do work. It does look like, as we understand it today, that those of us who believe in the efficacy of the vaccines will require yearly booster shots to maintain our immunity, but that seems a minor inconvenience to me.
And since we are now, at least in the US, very close to a state in which everyone who wants to be vaccinated will be, I am okay with this situation. I mean with how I feel about those who don't want to take the vaccination.
(Not that anyone who doesn't take the vaccine needs my approval, of course! Just saying it seems less of a problem to me than it did, looking at it this way.)
Larry, I think, is correct in that those of us who are vaccinated are protected, and that if others don't want to be vaccinated, well, that is their choice to make.
I hope we send our unwanted vaccine surplus abroad to help other countries who have populations desperate to receive them. It would be good for world health, and good for our reputation.
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