.308 Advice Needed

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I am seriously contemplating selling off several unused guns and buying a SUR (Sport Utility Rifle) in .308. I would appreciate any and all advice and why you would recommend one over another. At this point what I have seen available are the following:
Cetme: very affordable, getting hard to find

FN/FAL: not too pricey, but very heavy, and getting hard to find

Springfield M1A: very pricey, but easily found

Garand tanker: very rare, medium pricey

What am I missing?

Thanks folks!

Steve
 
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I am seriously contemplating selling off several unused guns and buying a SUR (Sport Utility Rifle) in .308. I would appreciate any and all advice and why you would recommend one over another. At this point what I have seen available are the following:
Cetme: very affordable, getting hard to find

FN/FAL: not too pricey, but very heavy, and getting hard to find

Springfield M1A: very pricey, but easily found

Garand tanker: very rare, medium pricey

What am I missing?

Thanks folks!

Steve
 
Have a look at Armalite AR10s.
I have experience with the Armalites, there's other makes of the same thing but less expensive.

Jim
 
My favorite 308 is my DPMS LR308T, Lightweight, accurate, easy to clean, high capacity, hunting legal with the right magazine, easy to fit with any optics but will work well with iron sights if you choose, and hotrodable. I have an M1A Supermatch also, and I like it when I'm in the mood, but it's heavy, doesn't adapt to optics easily, and I find it hard to clean. Make sure you purchase magazines while they are still available.
 
Steve,

I can echo sar4937 on the DPMS. I have the Panther LR308.

My model is no lightweight, coming in at around 15 pounds with a full 19 round mag and scope.

Besides the scope the only tweak I applied was a Harris Ultralight bipod, since most of my shooting with this thing is from the bench or prone position.

It is remarkably accurate out of the box. Several friends at the club range tried it...and every one of them tried to make me an offer on it.

Picked it up over a year ago for right around 900, and at the time they were actually cheaper than a lot of AR 15's being sold.

Two issues. Even back when I bought mine, it had to be special ordered. I would have no idea how long it would take to get one built these days.

Second issue: I just saw a CTD flyer which was selling DPMS factory 19 round magazines for 100 bucks!!!! Just a year ago, they were around 40.

Len.
 
SA M1A is my choice. I bought the SOCOM 16 2 years ago and really love it. No problems to speak of.
 
HK91 or a cheaper and just as good(if not better) a Springfield SAR3/8 not one with the rails but the good ones from Greece of my 4 HK 91's the SAR is my favorite

bottom one in this pic, it been modified to 16" and other stuff
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DPMS in .308 is a tack driver. I have great success with surplus Port. or SA ammo in addition to Privi or Winchester. HK is really nice but it eats up the brass if you plan on relaoding anything.

.308 in an AR platform with a good scope is +1...
 
My experience is limited to M14/M1A and a little with the FAL. As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as a light 7.62 full sized rifle.

I like my M1A (med. hvy bbl., wood stock, bedded, NM mods) a lot. With irons it was pretty manageable at about 11.5 pounds loaded with sling.

Finally put an optic on it--3X ACOG and a Smith mount, which porked it up to 13.5 pounds. But it's still one fine rifle.

Always wanted to build up a Garand in 7.62 but never got around to it. I'm going to put a scout scope on one in an AmegaRanges mount one of these days, though. I think that could be a pretty darned good piece in either 7.62 or '06.
 
308 is just under the 30-06 an will take any game in the usa , if hand loaded rignt now days its some what hard to find are hard to find lots of good loads for it in the books but it can be loaded to to topel nothing wrong witch it
 
Well, I'll vote for what I use. I have an FN FAL, Stg 58. Built it my self and it is a tack driver. It's not really too heavy. Off the bench with Lake City National Match I could get 1/2" groups at 100 yards with open sights. It has a built in bipod which is handy, but those 1/2" groups open considerably when used.

The FAL is just a classy rifle. I think I'd like the M14/M1A also....I just don't have one.
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I had a Springfield SAR8 and sold it. Too heavy and a little finnickey at times. I had to send it back to Springfield to fix a FTF/FTE problem. Springfields are guaranteed for life - a very nice feature.

Currently, I have:

A Ruger M77 MK I in .308- bolt action; one of the originals with a Douglas barrel and adjustable trigger. There's an older Leupold M8 4X scope on it, which makes the gun more accurate than me. The magazine is enclosed/ not detachable.

An Ishapore 2A in 7.62x51 - This is not the same as .308. NATO rounds have a lower pressure than .308 rounds. Could be dangerous in some guns. The action is as smooth as butter and has a detachable magazine. I have several extras. I took off the wood and replaced it with a fiberglass stock. It's my beat around gun.

A Savage Model 99 DL (Deluxe) - the receiver is roll marked, "Model M" but that only means it has a Monte Carlo stock. Lever action with internal rotary magazine. Haven't shot it yet, but am looking forward to doing so.
 
Originally posted by Gutpile Charlie:
Off the bench with Lake City National Match I could get 1/2" groups with open sights.

A friend of mine gave me 100 rounds of it..when I found out how good it was I stopped plinking with it..still have 3 20 round boxes left...
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I own or have owned all the guns listed here. Most were good, some rquired some tinkering. I shot most in competition of one sort or another. All said No1 pick is Armalite AR10, No2 FAL (I prefer the Brit version).
Bob Ray
 
Depends on what you want to do. For offending liberals, anything you mentioned will do fine. I'd lean toward something with lots of milsurp parts available, like an M-1A or FN/FAL. I'd also get 20-30 NEW magazines and several each of the parts that break the most often. None of that stuff is going to get any more available than it is right now, so stock up.

For pretty much everything else, I'd get a stainless/synthetic bolt gun like a Kimber Montana or a Ruger Hawkeye. The 308 is plenty for most North American game, but you'll want it to weigh around 7-8 lbs. A 10- to 15-lb. battle rifle is heavier, more awkward and more complex than necessary. I'd set up this rifle with a pair of 4x Leupolds in QD rings that return to zero, and zero them both so I'd have a spare.

Whatever you get, stock up on ammo. A gas gun will probably run better on mil-spec ammo, but there is some real trash on the market and it's easy to end up with a case of something that only shoots 4 MOA in your rifle on a good day. Try USGI (if you can find it), South African milsurp, Hirtenberger, Israeli and whatever else you think wise. Shoot 5-10 groups with each type so you know what you really have on your hands. Also, be aware that some people still sell 308 ammo loaded with corrosive primers. Life is too short for that headache.

Milsurp may not be the best choice for a high-quality bolt gun. A few years ago, I bought a nice 308 thinking I'd practice with milsurp, but the best of five or six varieties I tried (including what's listed above) shot about 4 MOA and some of it wouldn't even chamber. I ended up buying 1,000 rounds of PMC FMJ ammo. It shot about 1.5 MOA, which was fine for practice and plinking. I use handloads or commercial soft-points for hunting. Sometimes the big-box stores stock too much of it, then have to sell it cheaply after hunting season ends.

Their loss, my gain.


Okie John
 

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