32-20 Jacket HP HV

[4K2022]

Can someone help me with an approximate date of manufacture for these cartridges?

 

[desi2358]

The first Remington box is post 1962 since it has the "Child Warning" on the label and is a style used into the 70's. The second Remington box would be 1940's/50's going by the address on the back. The yellow Super X box would have gone into use sometime after Olin became the Olin-Mathieson Chemical Corporation in 1954 and would still have been in use into the 60's but is Pre-62 since it doesn't have the "Child Warning" on it. The yellow/red Winchester box is the 1946 post war pattern used till @ 1960. The side label with the Olin info could narrow it down. Both it and the Super X box should have stamped date codes on the end flaps giving actual production dates. Those codes have been published by collectors.

 

[30-30remchester]

I hope you don't waste the high velocity ammo on tin cans and dirt clots. While not rare, they are out of production and hard to find. I recently acquired a box of full metal jacket 32/20's, another rarer loading.

 

[4K2022]

I hope you don't waste the high velocity ammo on tin cans and dirt clots.

I assure you the thought never crossed my mind. My hope is when Mr. Groundhog comes out to see his shadow, they go BANG

And thank you desi2358 for your time and knowledge, I very much appreciate your help. I'll be sure to look inside for the "fine print." All I've done was remove the embarrassing price stickers

 

[DWalt]

The date codes will tell the age. But you need to crack the code. I can, at least most of the time.

 

[4K2022]

The date codes will tell the age. But you need to crack the code. I can, at least most of the time.

I'm getting educated on two fronts, 32-20 cartridges and posting to the forum!! As my luck would have it the Winchester box is missing the end flap. Hopefully I've added a picture of the "other side" of the box and noticed 42 embossed on the bottom of the inner box , no idea if it's meaningful.




Western Super X box; 98 22RL 52

Vert faintly on the outside of the small Remington box; 2 1 E 6 45
not sure if that's helpful

Thanks for sharing

 

[desi2358]

The "Division of Olin Industries" stamp was used from 1944 to 1954. The 42 punched into the box is a box makers mark iirc.

The Western box date code is the 22RL 52 (98 is not identified, may be a shift code).......... 22 is the packer, R is 1960, L is October, 52 is the day (reversed) so the 25'th day.

Don't have the Remington codes I'm afraid, have seen a few posts with partial info on the International Cartridge Collectors forum but no complete listing. Best I can do with Remington stuff is go by the known changes in labels, box designs and addresses.

 

[Drm50]

The High Velocity on Western and High Speed on Remington is safe to shot in revolvers in good shape. It's not the same as the Rifle Only ammo. I have not run into any 32/20s that shoot jacketed ammo better than lead.
I've got a few boxes of various types of 32/20 with jackets. Haven't shot any for years. Also have boxes of jacketed bullets that are better than 40yrs old.
I know old timers that swear by the jacketed HPs as deer killers.

 

[4K2022]

This is where the 98 was printed



Thanks everyone for the education in cartridge collecting, I've learned a lot

 

[Muley Gil]

The High Velocity on Western and High Speed on Remington is safe to shot in revolvers in good shape. It's not the same as the Rifle Only ammo. I have not run into any 32/20s that shoot jacketed ammo better than lead.
I've got a few boxes of various types of 32/20 with jackets. Haven't shot any for years. Also have boxes of jacketed bullets that are better than 40yrs old.
I know old timers that swear by the jacketed HPs as deer killers.

Yes indeed. Any ammo that is safe in a Winchester Model 1873 is safe in a good quality revolver. I have shot the soft point ammo in an early 1902 S&W with no ill effects. They are loud though.

 

[Class III]

I used the "Rifle Only" Remington load in my 1908 produced Winchester 1892 a few years ago and I can say "Yes, it will drop a WT deer" at 125 yards using iron sights. She was DRT. Would I use the same load in any of my period revolvers? Oh HECK NO!!!

Class III