32 H&R Mag

I am currently at the gym with my 342PD. Not a 32, I couldn’t afford the extra hole. :)

The air weights sure make great guns for carrying when other guns are just too big and heavy.

My two most frequently carried guns are my 340PD and my 431PD .

And they are my 2 lightest.

I stocked up on 32 HR mag ammo over the last few years, luckily.

Haven't seen single box of 32 mag for sale in months
 
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My two most frequently carried guns are my 340PD and my 431PD .

And they are my 2 lightest.

I stocked up on 32 HR mag ammo over the last few years, luckily.

Haven't seen single box of 32 mag for sale in months

My only 32 H&R is a 4” 16-4. I don’t have much factory ammo, but I’ve stocked up on components.
 

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I just got a Ruger LCRx. Was able to happen upon a nice selection of fodder at a rural shop. So, I brought it along to the range the other day. Found the .32 S&W LRN was a *****cat, but....the 95g Fed H&R with a flat meplat was a suprisingly snappy. I'm just about frightened to try the .327 Fed and SPeer that I left in the ammo locker, LOL.
 
I have an LCR 327, although I haven't been carrying it recently.

I have an lg-415 laser grip on it.

Shooting full boat 327 Federal in it isn't too bad.

Better than full power 357 Magnum on my LCR 357.

So take that LCRx back to the range and give it a try with the ammo it was designed for. :)
 
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I just got a Ruger LCRx. Was able to happen upon a nice selection of fodder at a rural shop. So, I brought it along to the range the other day. Found the .32 S&W LRN was a *****cat, but....the 95g Fed H&R with a flat meplat was a suprisingly snappy. I'm just about frightened to try the .327 Fed and SPeer that I left in the ammo locker, LOL.

I'm 99% sure I won't like the .327! My .32 Mag Field Pistol silhouette loads are a pleasure to shoot in the Model 16-4, but the "rejects" are quite snappy in the airweight. It is usually loaded with factory ammo for carry purposes. They are rather easier to shoot, to boot.
 
I'm 99% sure I won't like the .327! < snip >

My experience with 327 factory ammo is that it comes in 2 flavors - mild and wild. The 100g JHP loads from American Eagle and Speer are in low-level 357 Magnum energy territory. I find them tolerable and exciting in a Ruger Single Seven, but couldn't stand to shoot 'em in the LCR. In all cases they're LOUD. Really loud. Earplug plus muff and they're still loud, loud.

The 85 grain loads I tried were all down in 32 H&R Magnum energy territory - at least at the Buffalo Bore end of it. Which, from a 2" barrel is energy-equivalent to 38 Special +P. Potent but tolerable to shoot, even in the LCR.
 
Let me add in that I just loaded 2 trial batches of 327 Fed Mag; twenty rounds each of 100 grain cast lead SWCs and plated HPs over starting charges of my private label Accurate #9 equivalent. I shot them Wednesday afternoon through my custom stainless K frame 327 and my Ruger Blackhawk 327 eight shooter. Heavier guns, but they were both very pleasant to shoot with those loads. You might try starter loads for 32 H&R brass with similar bullets... I believe they would work well.

Froggie
 
Here is my little woods friend. Pre-lock 331. Fits in your pocket, 6 shots, & you hardly know it is there. Helped start a few defense gun shooters with it using .32 Longs.

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I watched this one sell on Gunbroker, yikes! $2550!
Smith & Wesson Model 331 Airlite Ti 32 H&R MAG NO RESERVE! $1 MINT! - Revolvers at GunBroker.com : 892216711
 
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I have a Colt Detective Special that was converted to the powerful .32 H&R Magnum cartridge. The gun dates to 1952 and remains in 98% condition. It has a 2” barrel and tapered front ramp sight. The original checkered walnut grips remain in near new condition. The cylinder is marked .32 MAG. on the back face.
 

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I don’t care about the loc. If s&W gets rid of the Klingon hole the revolvers with the hole will be sought after. I got a head start on you guys.
 
Got a 432 and a 632 in stainless, 3", comp'ed. Put a fiber optic on it. I got the 432 for $305 when they were dumped as discontinued way back when. Should have bought two of them. The 432 is a neat carry gun. Bought 250 SW long wadcutters on the cusp of the panic. I used to shoot the 632 in IDPA club matches. It's a great little gun.

Saw an article that in 2019, IIRC there were only about 1600 32 cal revolvers manufactured. Given that - new ammo will be a long time in coming, I would think. Lots of folks like the 432s and wish there were new ones.
 
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My Dad bought a 431pd and put a crimson trace grip on it. I think he may have put one box of ammo through it. when he decided he couldn't shoot anymore he was going to give it to me but I told him I would give him what he had in it, so I got it for $400.
 
< snip > I used to shoot the 632 in IDPA club matches. It's a great little gun. < snip >

I've shot IDPA with 38 Special revolvers, and would have loved to do it with my 3" 31-1. It has a slightly longer barrel for a bit more velocity, a longer ejector rod for more reliable reloads, and has been reamed for 32 H&R Mag. But I couldn't find a load that would make the power factor for revolvers.

My club matches are pretty loose - they would have let me use a 32 even though the IDPA rules required 38 at a minimum. But it takes a certain amount of energy to knock down steel plates, especially the big poppers that are sometimes used to trigger other moving targets. And the minimum-power revolver loads just barely did it.

The Buffalo Bore 32 H&R Mag +P load did it comfortably, but they're over $1/round, and I was never able to come close to their velocity with reloads, staying anywhere close to published maximum powder charges, with any powder I tried. (They're also remarkably uncomfortable to shoot many of, even with big rubber grips, so I probably wouldn't have been able to do a full match with them even if they were available cheap.)

What ammo did you use in your IDPA matches, and how did it do on steel?
 
I’ve been thinking again about the 32 H&R, and had a few random revelations;
1) the timing of its release was a positive... people were still shooting a lot of revolvers and were willing to experiment with a new revolver caliber.
2) there was a potential for heavy loads in the “Magnum” that would bring it up somewhere about 38 Spl or even +P level.
3) brass and ammo were a big negative. Very little of the former and sketchy initial quality of the latter made some people wonder “Why bother?” It remained for the appearance of Starline Brass to repair this shortcoming, albeit late.
4) perhaps the biggest negative was the guns made available. Although there were a big Ruger Blackhawk, and both K- and J framed Smiths (as well as guns by “lesser” manufacturers like H&R and Charter) they never got the full publicity blitz needed to achieve wide popularity then, and were mostly discontinued quickly and quietly after very short production runs.
5) although brass is commonly available now, the selection of guns is limited and high priced, and when added to other factors like the general high price and limited availability of all things gun related as well as competition from its younger, bolder sibling the 327 Fed Mag, the poor 32 H&R has become lost in the shuffle.

More’s the pity... it had the potential to be a pretty good round. I’ve told the story here repeatedly about the high esteem Skeeter Skelton held for the 32 H&R... when I asked him late in his career about building a custom 32-20, supposedly a lifelong favorite caliber of his, he strongly counseled me to go with the 32 H&R instead, saying it actually had more potential for my intended purpose and would be better for loading as well. I’ve often wondered what would have happened if he had lived a few more years and written publicly what we chatted about that day... :rolleyes:

Froggie
 
Both of my .32H&Rs are Charters, a Professional and an aluminum snubnose, and have no complaints about either (once the Pro's front sight problem was corrected, anyway). Someday, I'll find a S&W. Someday. In the meantime, I have three .32 Longs to play with if I need S&W good times.



Reloading for both Longs and Magnums makes both inexpensive to shoot, and playing with recipes is almost as much fun as .38 Specials.
 
I’ve been thinking again about the 32 H&R, and had a few random revelations;
1) the timing of its release was a positive... people were still shooting a lot of revolvers and were willing to experiment with a new revolver caliber.
2) there was a potential for heavy loads in the “Magnum” that would bring it up somewhere about 38 Spl or even +P level.
3) brass and ammo were a big negative. Very little of the former and sketchy initial quality of the latter made some people wonder “Why bother?” It remained for the appearance of Starline Brass to repair this shortcoming, albeit late.
4) perhaps the biggest negative was the guns made available. Although there were a big Ruger Blackhawk, and both K- and J framed Smiths (as well as guns by “lesser” manufacturers like H&R and Charter) they never got the full publicity blitz needed to achieve wide popularity then, and were mostly discontinued quickly and quietly after very short production runs.
5) although brass is commonly available now, the selection of guns is limited and high priced, and when added to other factors like the general high price and limited availability of all things gun related as well as competition from its younger, bolder sibling the 327 Fed Mag, the poor 32 H&R has become lost in the shuffle.

More’s the pity... it had the potential to be a pretty good round. I’ve told the story here repeatedly about the high esteem Skeeter Skelton held for the 32 H&R... when I asked him late in his career about building a custom 32-20, supposedly a lifelong favorite caliber of his, he strongly counseled me to go with the 32 H&R instead, saying it actually had more potential for my intended purpose and would be better for loading as well. I’ve often wondered what would have happened if he had lived a few more years and written publicly what we chatted about that day... :rolleyes:

Froggie

For me the biggest push came with the introduction of the Ruger single six mag. When they put the 32 on a 22 frame people really started to take notice. Ross Seyfried mentioned taking a Bisley Blackhawk in 32 H&R way past max book levels without any concerns except the shortened brass life many of us were seeing out of the Federal cases any way.
 
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