327 federal Magnum

[guesser]

Read that Taurus and Charter Arms had discontinued building revolvers chambered in 327. I emailed CA this morning and received confirmation that the chambering has been dropped. Taurus has removed 327 revolvers from their web site. Rumor has it that S&W is halting production. Federal supposedly has dropped the operating pressure of 327 ammunition to 36000 from the original 46000.
Anyone have any info????

 

[.357magger]

Wonder, if any, how many eyeballs and/or fingers were lost prior to that decision. (if decision it was). Ruger still lists the GP100 and Blackhawk in that chambering.

And here I was hoping for a 9 shot N frame or an 8 shot L out of this round too.

 

[W.E.G.]

Its a cool little cartridge.

I've kept thinking I should get one.

Then I look at my .357 mag, and .41 mag Blackhawks, and then at my .32 S&W break-top, and my .32 Long hand-ejector, and my .32-20 hand-ejector, and my .32 H&R Single-Six.

...and I ask myself, do I REALLY want a .327 Federal bad enough?

I'm thinking this one may go the way of the .357 Maximum.

I've never really regretted not getting a .357 Max.

 

[guesser]

I like the cartridge, I cast and hand load it. I like my CA and also like 32-20 so I asked my dealer to order me a USFA convertible in 327/32-20. The lead time is 6 Mo. or so, but now I wonder what is going to happen.
Anyone heard from S&W???

 

[Mulefoot]

i ve got the sp101 327..its a hand cannon..i love it!

 

[peyton]

I think some of the problem is we want a K/L frame 327. I got a gaggle of j frame 32's and want to step up to the next size plus more capacity revolver.

 

[cantpickone]

I have a Ruger SP101 in this caliber and I like it. So when Bud's starting listing the Taurus at $280 for blue & $290 in SS, I bought a SS version. They still have them and the Charter Arms at a too high of a price (to me).
I am watching for the S&W non ported with night sights to come up for sale at a reasonable price. So far I have only seen the 632 with a ported barrel available and I don't want that at a premium price.

 

[papajohn428]

So much for the cocky new kid on the block. After all the hype, most shooters still want a bigger bullet. I laughed every time I read an article proclaiming the 327 as having "better ballistics than the vaunted 357 Magnum".

Hot or not, it's still a 32. Americans like bigger bores.

Maybe it'll sell in Europe........they LOVE them Boullettes!

 

[williamlayton]

I have two Smiths and a lot of ammo.
I like it.
Blessings

 

[Shooter6br]

Handloading Blackhawk 327

Have a Blackhawk 327 . I handload cast 32mag and 32 long. I have a box of 327 115 grainers. i will most likely only use them for hunting/ camping carry gun To me i bought the Blackhawk as a strong 32 mag platform. i can handload the 32mag to almost match the 327 Fed

 

[Gunhacker]

Well.... people have been predicting the demise of the .41 Magnum for years and years, and it's still with us.

I think there is enough of a niche following for the .327 Federal to survive. One of the problems of it not taking off is the lack of a versatile/practical DA platform (steel K-frame)... and "the great ammo/component shortage of 2009" didn't help matters either.

I hope it survives... it's one helluva round out of a T/C contender custom barrel.

 

[Cobroller]

Well.... people have been predicting the demise of the .41 Magnum for years and years, and it's still with us.

I think there is enough of a niche following for the .327 Federal to survive. One of the problems of it not taking off is the lack of a versatile/practical DA platform (steel K-frame)... and "the great ammo/component shortage of 2009" didn't help matters either.

I hope it survives... it's one helluva round out of a T/C contender custom barrel.

I bought six boxes of ammo last week-- .327 and .41 magnums. I like them both, but then I also shoot 16 gauge shotguns.

 

[617X10]

S&W is supposedly dropping the .357 Sig from the M&P line, most likely due to cost-cutting measures. Since Taurus and Charter aren't the most sought after names in the revolver business, they probably want to concentrate on revolvers chambered in cartridges that will sell as many guns for them as possible. The .327 is too new to have much of a self defense following. I have yet to hear of a story where it was used in a self-defense situation, and I don't plan on holding my breath until I do. Most pistol calibers that you have heard about have a police history of some sort, be it 9mm, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, .45 GAP, or .45 ACP. The .327 is probably never going to be used by any police department in the United States.

 

[BOPLEO]

Love the 327 maggie

 

[mesinge2]

I still want a 8 or 9 shot K/L frame or, should I be so lucky, a 10 shot N frame model.

 

[BUFF]

These are tough times to introduce a new handgun cartridge. It's tough for buyers to spend the money, it's tough for businesses to have a lot of capital tied up in inventory that doesn't move quickly.

One has to look at the spectrum of cartridges available and honestly ask, does a new round fill a real gap among existing rounds, or is it primarily something to generate extra demand?

I hate to see it go, but the market will determine success or failure. Even if there are no new guns made (which I doubt will be the case), the ammunition will be manufactured occasionally for a really long time, it will just be harder to find and more expensive.

 

[mtgianni]

Ruger and Federal partnered up on this. Until Ruger and S&W drop it it is still going. If Starline would produce brass it would be great, unfortunately they are pushing to make what they do now, let alone add an extra.

 

[cantpickone]

I went shooting at the property of a friend last weekend. I shot both my 327 mag revolvers among other guns.
After shooting 3 cylinders full of 100gr SP Federal through the Taurus, I opened the cylinder and it fell out on the ground. I looked at it and a screw had come out of the side plate.
I called Taurus and they offered to have me ship it to them, but I asked them to just send me a screw and they agreed. They said that if I am unable to fix it that they will still repair it for me. It just needs loctite and a new screw and it will be fine (for a Taurus). Nothing hotter than 85gr low recoil ammo will ever go in that gun again.
The Ruger SP101 operated flawlessly and accurately will various ammo. I had a gunsmith put Wolff springs and polish the trigger and it is much improved from how it was manufactured.
I just found out that Buffalo Bore is making 327 Mag ammo in 100gr HP and 130gr hard cast SWC.
I just ordered 3 boxes of the 130gr. Buffalo Bore says that it will penetrate a bear's skull.
I'm still keeping my eyes open for a Smith without ported barrel at a reasonable price and expect to find one eventually.

 

[Stainz]

I spent $750 on the new 632 Pro, including a set of 60 Pro grips. The HKS 32-J speedloader, leftover from my 4" SP101 in .32 H&RM days - which ended 3.5yr ago, is loaded with 115gr Speer Gold Dot .327 Magnums. They seem to have the most recoil of the trio of them and the 85gr .327 Magnum Federal SP's and Federal HydraShok JHPs. The SP's were in boxes of 50; the HP's in boxes of 20. The ammo was $20-$21/box at a local store. It hits POA at 7-10yd with a combat aim (NS orbs in a line - the front one coaxial to the bullseye.); low with everything else. Like that SP101 I had - only windage adjustable (I should have looked!).

I had ~800 94-96gr LRNFP .32 S&WL leftover from my Ruger .32 H&RM days, when I also had a BHG SSM. They are shown below, along with the Federal .327 Magnum ammo.

Interesting firearm - now, after reading this thread - a bit late - I see it is for a dead round! I wanted one since it's announcement 2/10 - and they finally started shipping 9/11! Note - it has no IL. Maybe it'll be a classic? The wood grips help.

Stainz

 

[BobR1]

I have talked with my local gun shop about the 327.

I believe he is correct, AMMO was the problem. When the big dud came into power, everyone started buying up all the ammo off the shelves. The available 32 all went out with the popular stuff in short order. The ammunition makers were trying to keep up with popular stuff like 9mm, 38, 40 and 45. No one was worried about getting any 32 Long, 32 H&R or 327 practice ammo back on the shelves. This resulted in guns in 327 being available with no practice ammo, or components to load any available for a couple years. The $1.00 a shot carry ammo is not real popular to practice with, and it was about all you could find.
They are now dropping the 327 about the time American Eagle 327 ($0.50 a shot), and 32 H&R and 327 Federal brass is starting to become available again.

I am of the opinion Timing hurt the 327 about as much as anything.

Different things hurt different rounds. The 480 Ruger is a good example. I have heard various opinions of what went wrong with sales on the 480. Most skip the obvious. Ammo Cost. We have lots of folks who do not reload. The cheapest ammo you can buy for the 480 Ruger from Midway is Full House Hornady Hunting ammo at $27 a box of 20 plus shipping and tax if you live in Missouri. The next cheapest ammo is Speer at $40 a box of 20. If the 480 had some economy reduced power ammo available at around $30 a box of 50, the 480 would still be in production and doing great.

Bob