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I was toying with the idea of buying a 357 Sig for the last few years but never ran up on one for the right price. Then they were discontinued.

I have been in the “no buy” mode recently unless it was very unique.

Well, thanks to my friend/enabler WCCPHD notifying me, and it being a lousy rainy day, I ventured about.

I bought my third Sig handgun and first 357 auto of any manufacturer.

The local cop shop had three NCHP 357 Sig handguns in stock, ANIB. Three mags, all the paperwork and box. Looks like the factory oil on it as well.

They sold out while I was waiting on the paperwork.

I have a bunch of NY-1’s and a CHP 4013TSW. Now a LE handgun from my adopted state.

$550+ tax OTD.


Now, back to “don’t buy unless unique mode”.






 
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I use this DeSantis holster for my Sig P239 pistols and a Don Hume JIT belt slide. I don’t have the JIT here to check the model number.
 

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You got a deal. Used they are selling for more than that regularly, particularity in 357Sig. Very nice, I love mine.

Just FYI, the magazines are NOT the same for the 357 and 40. The 357 have a ridge toward the front in which the necking of the 357Sig round rides. You can use 40SW magazines but they are more prone to jamming with 357Sig rounds than the genuine 357Sig magazines.
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Caught a deal in 2018 on a Certified Pre-Owned Sig P229 .40S&W, standard DA-SA-Decocker German-made model. LE trade-ins run through the factory and returned to as-new condition, in box with 2 mags and factory one-year warranty. Just under $400 delivered to a local FFL. (MSRP at the time was $1087 for a new one). These so-called "Red Box" guns are still reasonably available, but prices have been going up over the past year or so.

I have toyed with the idea of adding a .357 Sig barrel, available for $120-$130 or so. Nothing else needed, uses same mags and springs, basically a drop-in part. Several of the other Sig pistols offer the same options (most of the .40S&W pistols can easily convert to .357 Sig with only another barrel).

Interesting, but that would be another caliber needing ammo, brass, reloading dies, bullet mold at a time that I am downsizing and trying to simplify.
 
I had 2 P239s in 9mm, then a .357 showed up at my LGS, great deal and I found a .40 cal barrel for it. A week later a P229 in .357 showed up, LOL, already stocked that caliber, so I jumped on it, picked up a .40 cal barrel for it also.
 
I own one .40 S&W and one .357 sig....... a Sig 229 ... with 2 barrels and half a dozen mags........ after Sandyhook I was able to buy .357 sig and .40 when my calibers of choice 357 mag, 9mm and .45 were off the shelf.........got a stash of .40 and sig...... my last ditch stash if SHTF,

mt advice buy it if you can,,,,,,, insurance !!
 
The Sig P239's were not the only NC SHP Guns that the dealer had. They also had P226's. The P239's were issued to the SHP's Governor's Security Detail. The P226 was the standard issue to uniformed Troopers.

And in defense of the allegation that I'm an enabler for Ladder 13, I'm just catching up to his evil enabling.

Without further ado:







 
The Sig P239's were not the only NC SHP Guns that the dealer had. They also had P226's. The P239's were issued to the SHP's Governor's Security Detail. The P226 was the standard issue to uniformed Troopers.

And in defense of the allegation that I'm an enabler for Ladder 13, I'm just catching up to his evil enabling.

Without further ado:








Also very nice. The 40SW is a drop in barrel for that one and the mags are 357/40 for the P226/9 models.

Oh, and on the P239 - you can drop in a 9mm barrel and use a 9mm magazine with it. CDNN has threaded 9mm 239 barrels for $89 currently......;)
 
Very nice! I’ve become a big fan of that bottlenecked round. I have a 320 that I sent back for the trigger upgrade. It came back with a .40 barrel somehow. I called Sig and they sent me a new .357 barrel, so now I have a quick change convertible.

Anybody who thinks there’s no real difference between a 9mm and a .357 Sig has not shot them side by side.
 

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The Sig P239's were not the only NC SHP Guns that the dealer had. They also had P226's. The P239's were issued to the SHP's Governor's Security Detail. The P226 was the standard issue to uniformed Troopers.

And in defense of the allegation that I'm an enabler for Ladder 13, I'm just catching up to his evil enabling.

Without further ado:









Oh nooooooo, don’t make me go back there. :D
 
Caught a deal in 2018 on a Certified Pre-Owned Sig P229 .40S&W, standard DA-SA-Decocker German-made model. LE trade-ins run through the factory and returned to as-new condition, in box with 2 mags and factory one-year warranty. Just under $400 delivered to a local FFL. (MSRP at the time was $1087 for a new one). These so-called "Red Box" guns are still reasonably available, but prices have been going up over the past year or so.

I have toyed with the idea of adding a .357 Sig barrel, available for $120-$130 or so. Nothing else needed, uses same mags and springs, basically a drop-in part. Several of the other Sig pistols offer the same options (most of the .40S&W pistols can easily convert to .357 Sig with only another barrel).

Interesting, but that would be another caliber needing ammo, brass, reloading dies, bullet mold at a time that I am downsizing and trying to simplify.


CDNN had those red label 229’s and 226’s for awhile, now gone.
 
I own one .40 S&W and one .357 sig....... a Sig 229 ... with 2 barrels and half a dozen mags........ after Sandyhook I was able to buy .357 sig and .40 when my calibers of choice 357 mag, 9mm and .45 were off the shelf.........got a stash of .40 and sig...... my last ditch stash if SHTF,

mt advice buy it if you can,,,,,,, insurance !!

During the ammo drought, my SIL found 3 boxes of ".357". Trouble was, the bottle neck cartridges wouldn't fit in his 686, lol, gave them to me. That was my motivation to pick up the P239. For a while that and .22 short was all there was on the shelves.
Like Bam-Bam said insurance!
 
I have two P-239's, both 9mm. I'm not seeing a problem with any of the cartridges the P-239 was offered with. It's my understanding that a barrel swap is all that is necessary to convert to 40 S&W. 9mm is it's it's own frame and internals.

P-239 will become a classic in about 5 years. 357 Sig will die out but a re-loader will always have a classic pistol. Sig dropped the ball when they dis-continued that pistol. It's a masterpiece of engineering.

I paid $600 for the one I bought this year and I'll buy another if I can find one at that price. :D
 
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Wasn't the .357 Sig designed to emulate the “Hammer of Thor” Federal 125 grain JHP .357 magnum round, but in an auto loader with greater magazine capacity?

I think that was it's billing. Lots of LE agencies got sucked into the marketing. Lots of agencies got sucked into the 40 S&W billing also. I think most of the P-239's on the surplus market are .357 and 40 because that's what LE wanted 10 years ago. I think some still use it. Neither of those have any great advantage over the 9mm so LE is going with the biggest bang for the buck these days.

Notice that the military never embraced either the 357 or 40 cartridge, but we're going into the weeds here.
 
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