3919

[gator1]

Local gun shop has a 3919 for sale. I'm not as familiar with that model as the 3913 or 3916.

Can someone school me on it? How rare is it? Production numbers? What is a fair price?

Thanks

 

[colt_saa]

That is not a model I have ever heard of. However, I am not familiar with the model 3916 that you mention either.

Based on the way 4 digit model numbers are built, your 3916 would be a stainless framed, stainless slide, single stack, compact, 4th generation 9MM. 3919 does not decode under S&Ws 4 digit system.

The issue is the last digit which denotes construction materials. As far as I can recall S&W only used 3-7.

Did you see the number 3919 stamped on the firearm? Or did someone tell you they had one?

 

[scwv67]

Do you mean 3906 instead of 3916? There was a full-size single stack 9mm called the 3906. Never heard of an actual 3919 or 3916.

 

[gator1]

The 3916 was a typo (meant 3906.) But the 3919 was stamped on it. I held it at the LGS.

 

[scwv67]

The 3916 was a typo (meant 3914.) But the 3919 was stamped on it. I held it at the LGS.

Hmmm...Maybe a mistake on the production line or maybe some limited run for a LE agency possibly? IDK.

Was it stainless or blued? Full-size or compact?

 

[yeti]

3919? Wha?
This thread needs a picture!

 

[shawn mccarver]

3919? Wha?
This thread needs a picture!

Agree. I would love to see that!

I am betting that it is a 3913. But, who knows, maybe S&W built a special run that none of us know about. Wouldn't that be neat? An overrun from some foreign contract or some left over guns ordered by "Universal Exports."

I don't doubt the original poster saw what he saw or believes he did. I sometimes "think" I remember something a certain way, but my wife always corrects me.

 

[gator1]

It had a stainless finish. SA/DA compact like a 3913. Guy at the store said he thought it was traded in by a former detective.

I've always used this chart for the last number of 3 gen smiths.

xxx0 = Scandium frame
xxx3 = Alloy frame silver
xxx4 = Alloy frame black
xxx5 = Steel frame blue
xxx6 = Stainless frame
xxx7 = Stainless frame Slide Decocker
xxx8 = Special Order

Maybe my eyes deceived, I'll get a pic this week.

Thanks

 

[shawn mccarver]

It had a stainless finish. SA/DA compact like a 3913. Guy at the store said he thought it was traded in by a former detective.

I've always used this chart for the last number of 3 gen smiths.

xxx0 = Scandium frame
xxx3 = Alloy frame silver
xxx4 = Alloy frame black
xxx5 = Steel frame blue
xxx6 = Stainless frame
xxx7 = Stainless frame Slide Decocker
xxx8 = Special Order

Maybe my eyes deceived, I'll get a pic this week.

Thanks

I found your chart interesting, especially as to xxx0 (I am not aware of any scandium 3rd Gens) and xxx7, which I always thought meant stainless frame and carbon slide.

I am aware they would modify the standard slide mounted safety/decocker into a decock only, but never knew they assigned a specific model number.

I have seen a factory 4566 with slide mounted decock only lever and it was marked 4566 straight from the factory. Typically the third digit indicated the frame decocker. xx2x (full size as in 1026) and xx7x (Commander size as in 1076).

Do you know of a scandium frame 3rd Gen?

Do you know of a model using the 7 as the last digit to signify a slide mounted decocker?

 

[red feather]

Google is your friend.

3913 The most......

S&W 3919 Lady Smith for sale (911458644)

 

[GaryS]

~

From this thread.

FIRST TWO DIGITS
39: 9mm
59: 9mm
69: 9mm
10: 10mm
40: 40S&W
45: 45 ACP
35: .357 TSW

THIRD DIGIT
0: standard model
1: compact
2: standard with decocker
3: compact with decocker
4: standard with DAO
6: nonstandard barrel length
7: nonstandard barrel length with decocker
8: nonstandard barrel length with DAO

FOURTH DIGIT
3: aluminum frame with SS slide
4: aluminum frame with carbon steel slide
5: carbon steel frame and slide
6: SS frame and slide
7: SS frame and carbon steel slide

*** Source SCSW, 3rd Ed.

There never was a 3919, but a 3 can look like a 9 under the right conditions. There was a revolver thread about a year ago, where the OP insisted that he had looked at a S&W chambered in ".36 Special" caliber. A closer re look showed that he had mistaken the 8 for a 6.

As to the ad in GunsAmerica, I'd suspect a typo as well.

There are enough 3rd generation experts (I'm not one) on this forum that if it existed someone would have seen one and probably own it was well.

 

[TexasG]

Do you know of a model using the 7 as the last digit to signify a slide mounted decocker?

Third Gen Model 457

 

[colt_saa]

I found your chart interesting, especially as to xxx0 (I am not aware of any scandium 3rd Gens) and xxx7, which I always thought meant stainless frame and carbon slide.

4040PD

I too had forgotten about the xxx0

 

[GaryS]

Third Gen Model 457

Are you sure about that? The Value Line guns don't follow the normal 3rd generation numbering system.

I think that this is the logic that S&W used for the Value Line,

First or first and second numbers are the caliber
Third number is the magazine capacity.

The 457 is a .45ACP gun with a seven round magazine.
The 908 is a 9mm gun with an eight round magazine.
The 915 is a 9mm gun with a fifteen round magazine.
The 411 is a 40 S&W gun with an eleven round magazine.

Note that this is based on my observations and not from any official or authoritative source. I could be completely wrong.

 

[TexasG]

Are you sure about that? The Value Line guns don't follow the normal 3rd generation numbering system.

I think that this is the logic that S&W used for the Value Line,

First or first and second numbers are the caliber
Third number is the magazine capacity.

The 457 is a .45ACP gun with a seven round magazine.
The 908 is a 9mm gun with an eight round magazine.
The 915 is a 9mm gun with a fifteen round magazine.
The 411 is a 40 S&W gun with an eleven round magazine.

Note that this is based on my observations and not from any official or authoritative source. I could be completely wrong.

Not totally sure - just referenced the 457 listed in the 3rd gen catalog pages???? Your observations make better sense than some of the other ways S&W numbered their 3rds.

 

[GaryS]

Not totally sure - just referenced the 457 listed in the 3rd gen catalog pages???? Your observations make better sense than some of the other ways S&W numbered their 3rds.

This just sort of came to me when I was reading your post. If S&W used any sort of logic in the Value Line numbering, it makes sense. Of course they could have picked the numbers out of a hat.

 

[WW5906]

The GunsAmerica listing for the 3919 looks to be a typo, if you look at the big version of the pic the box is product code 108290 which is the 1992-2005 3913LS.

 

[SW_shooter]

The GunsAmerica listing for the 3919 looks to be a typo, if you look at the big version of the pic the box is product code 108290 which is the 1992-2005 3913LS.

and if you look at the pic of the other side of the pistol you can clearly see the model number is 3913

 

[gator1]

Went back and took another look at the mystery "3919". After closer examination, it because apparent that there is a quarter-moon shaped scratch right at the top of the last number,making the "3" look like a "9." Whether it was accidental, or done intentionally at some point, I do not know. But it certainly looked intentional.

So the mystery "3919" is indeed a garden variety "3913"

Thanks

 

[petepeterson]

Now, go buy it! There is no "garden variety" 3913...