3rd gen .45's ?

[Camprunner]

How many different types of 3rd gen .45's were there ?? I only know of the 4506 but were there others?

 

[Camprunner]

How many different types of 3rd gen .45's were there ?? I only know of the 4506 but were there others?

 

[smith10]

4506 = 5" barrel, slide mounted decocker/safety all steel.

4566 = 4 1/4" barrel slide mounted decocker/safety all steel.

4576 = 4 1/4' barrel frame mounted decocker all steel

4516 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker all steel

4563(TSW) = 41/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame.

4513 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety decocker aluminum alloy frame.

4586 = 4 1/4" barrel DAO all steel

4583(TSW) = 4 1/4" barrel DAO aluminum alloy frame.

457 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame, value series.

CS45 = 3" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame.

CQB = 4" barrel slide mounted decocker steel or aluminum alloy frame, perforance center.

Shorty45 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame, perforance center.

Theres a couple I am missing, this was off the top of my head.

 

[Camprunner]

WoW I had no idea there was that many! Thanks for the info.

 

[varoadking]

Theres a couple I am missing, this was off the top of my head.

4556, 4553, 4546, 4526...

 

[Catshooter]

My 4566 has a four inch barrel, just FYI.


Cat

 

[SW CQB 45]

Recon 45
845

 

[625smith]

4505 the carbon steel version of the 4506.

 

[PeterBergh]

Originally posted by smith10:
4513 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety decocker aluminum alloy frame.

To further complicate matters, the 4513 (TSW, BTW) came in two versions. The original version had a 6-round magazine and a partly chopped grip. The later version (is the same size as the 4516 and 457 and) has a 7-round magazine.

 

[CTPete]

4566TSW

 

[KurtC]

4505
4506
4513 TSW
4516
4526
4536
4546
4553 TSW
4556
4563 TSW
4566 Std and TSW
4567
4576
4583 TSW
4586 Std and TSW
4596

The 3rd digit is the defining factor:

0 Full size TDA
1 Compact TDA
2 Full size Decocker on Frame
3 Compact Decocker on Frame
4 Full size DAO
5 Compact DAO
6 Mid size TDA
7 Mid size Decocker on Frame
8 Mid size DAO
9 Full size frame, compact slide TDA

The 4th digit is the material:

3 Aluminum frame with stainless slide
5 Carbon steel frame and slide
6 Stainless steel frame and slide
7 Stainless frame with carbon slide

 

[Shooter10]

Hi Guys, brand new here, and am looking for info on a 4586. Have been able to briefly handle one, never dry fire or fire one, but our Police Dept is selling them to the Officers who carried them, and I have been offered one. Seems very heavy, and I know some Officers did not like them, but most had no major problems with them. What can anyone tell me about this? I own several S & W revolvers, but at the time no semi auto, although at one time did have a 39 and later a 59.
The pistol seems in great condition, but does have several bright rubb marks where holster retention device held it, more than likely could polish the slide and get rid of those. I just have doubts of how it would serve as a Home Defense piece, as I have no experience with a DAO semi auto, and especially one that weighs about the same as a cement block.
Comments from those with more knowledge than I appreciated, including a guess at curretn value.

 

[smith10]

Originally posted by Catshooter:
My 4566 has a four inch barrel, just FYI.


Cat

No, it has a 4 1/4" barrel unless it is a PC CQB.

 

[SW CQB 45]

Originally posted by smith10:

Originally posted by Catshooter:
My 4566 has a four inch barrel, just FYI.


Cat

No, it has a 4 1/4" barrel unless it is a PC CQB.

Smith, Cat has a unique piece that we are unable to ID. Grinder must be on VAC but we think his is a prototype CQB just marked on the frame 4566. there are no CQB markings.

its is a briley bushinged 4" gun.

the serial number prefix is PCZXXXX which I have seen on another prototype PC.

it is a PC labeled gun.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/e...0103904/m/8891031443

 

[shawn mccarver]

Originally posted by smith10:
4506 = 5" barrel, slide mounted decocker/safety all steel.

4566 = 4 1/4" barrel slide mounted decocker/safety all steel.

4576 = 4 1/4' barrel frame mounted decocker all steel

4516 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker all steel

4563(TSW) = 41/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame.

4513 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety decocker aluminum alloy frame.

4586 = 4 1/4" barrel DAO all steel

4583(TSW) = 4 1/4" barrel DAO aluminum alloy frame.

457 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame, value series.

CS45 = 3" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame.

CQB = 4" barrel slide mounted decocker steel or aluminum alloy frame, perforance center.

Shorty45 = 3 3/4" barrel slide mounted safety/decocker aluminum alloy frame, perforance center.

Theres a couple I am missing, this was off the top of my head.

I think there was also a 4546, full size 5 inch with DAO operation and a 4526, full size 5 inch with frame mounted decocking lever.

 

[sctman800]

I have an early 4513TSW with the six round mag. The barrel lenghth is 3 1/2 on mine, Jim.

 

[Catshooter]

Sorry, didn't mean to add confusion to this thread.

My 4566 does indeed have a four inch barrel - I just measured it to be sure. Four inch dead on.

But I think it's a odd bear, so don't let it throw ya.


Cat

 

[smith10]

You didn't, you have a cousin to the CQB with 4" barrel and Briley bushing.

 

[Stillwater788]

Originally posted by Shooter10:
Hi Guys, brand new here, and am looking for info on a 4586. Have been able to briefly handle one, never dry fire or fire one, but our Police Dept is selling them to the Officers who carried them, and I have been offered one. Seems very heavy, and I know some Officers did not like them, but most had no major problems with them. What can anyone tell me about this? I own several S & W revolvers, but at the time no semi auto, although at one time did have a 39 and later a 59.
The pistol seems in great condition, but does have several bright rubb marks where holster retention device held it, more than likely could polish the slide and get rid of those. I just have doubts of how it would serve as a Home Defense piece, as I have no experience with a DAO semi auto, and especially one that weighs about the same as a cement block.
Comments from those with more knowledge than I appreciated, including a guess at curretn value.

Do a search on the 4586 and you'll see tons of folks singing their praises - including me. Reliable with a wide range of ammo, accurate and smooth handling, they make a fine HD gun as their weight is an asset in that role rather than a problem. Stainless OEM mags are readily available for $20. The only drawback is that they don't have a light mounting rail. If you're a revo guy, you'll love the 4586's trigger - smooth, with a short pull breaking at about 10 lbs. Get one!