3rd Gen recoil springs and rods

[preventec47]

Speaking of Recoil Springs, I sure would be willing to spend some
money if someone built a special tool to put that thing back
in the right place. Boy is that a thumb buster on the 10mm
1006 ! Is that spring stronger than others ? I am considering
putting a heavier spring in my pistol but it was all I could muster
to get the original one back in the right place without leaving
too much blood in the pistol. ( dried blood can only help the
accuracy right ? )

I have to say though that after being weaned on 1911 guns,
I sure am impressed that the recoil spring rod will hang on that
microscopic dimple If I had never seen it I would have bet
money against it.

 

[jerseyshoreshot]

I have struggled with the recoil spring and short guide rod on my 1076, much more so than my 4506. I find it easiest and safest to set the slide upside down on a towel to help secure it, install the assembly and compress the spring with my strong hand and place the guide rod bushing in the recess in the barrel lug with my weak hand. To play it safe, always wear safety glasses and aim the rear of the slide away from anything (and of course, anyone) that could be harmed it the guide rod shoots out. During assembly and disassembly, the Safety and Instruction Manual says to grasp both the slide and the recoil spring.

I have noticed that the edges on the guide rod bushing seem to get beat up, and I have read that they can become rounded, so it's a good idea to check them.

 

[preventec47]

I think we are in need of some standard definitions.
Are you calling the guide rod bushing edges the rearward
outside edges of the small disk on the end of the recoil rod?

see the photo I have attached.

You got me to thinking though.... I think next time I will
wrap the slide in some cloth or find some way to
pad it well and put the slide into a workbench vise
first before I try to install the recoil rod and spring.

 

[mgo]

I use an old pair of leather work gloves to re-seat the guide rod. Easier on the thumbs that way. Putting the slide on a folded old towel helps prevent shifting around.

The same gloves help when putting the slide back on. Prevents pinching and aids control.

I strong agree with the safety glasses caution. Springs can go "boing" at the worst time.

 

[jerseyshoreshot]

I think we are in need of some standard definitions.
Are you calling the guide rod bushing edges the rearward
outside edges of the small disk on the end of the recoil rod?

see the photo I have attached.

You got me to thinking though.... I think next time I will
wrap the slide in some cloth or find some way to
pad it well and put the slide into a workbench vise
first before I try to install the recoil rod and spring.

What I'm calling the bushing is the disk that retains the spring on one side and engages the cut out in the barrel on the other, as you show in your picture. The edge that seats in the cut out is what can get beat up. There is a good article on Vintage Pistols where the author reviews the 4506 and discusses similar problems with the assembly.

JSS

 

[surfgun]

There is still a ding in my drywall from when the guide rod a newly sprung 645 sent it flying!

 

[preventec47]

There is a good article on Vintage Pistols where the author reviews the 4506 and discusses similar problems with the assembly.
JSS

HUH? WHERE IS THE ARTICLE ? ? ?