4 digit HE 45lc

[tenntex32]

If'n it's not too much trouble.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

i did get a box with the gun... a holster too

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

i don't think it's to "special" so i'll shoot it
.. just rip'd off 500rds of cowboy loads (trailboss / 250gr polymer) for the ol girl

 

[Bill Bates]

That's a major note! Very nice.

Have you checked under the left stock for the rework date stamped on the left side grip frame?

I have and there is no rework date under the stocks.

 

[richcory]

Will be interesting to see what the letter says

Cory

 

[MrG5122]

i don't think it's to "special" so i'll shoot it
.. just rip'd off 500rds of cowboy loads (trailboss / 250gr polymer) for the ol girl

A man can't have too many 650's

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

The Letter/Joe Cocker - YouTube

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

the next 8wks be like.........

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

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[4WHLDRFTN]

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[4WHLDRFTN]

are we there yet,,, are we there yet,,,are we there yet

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

.. nutt'n special here

 

[oldbrownhat]

Some S&W 45 colts were made for the Canadian RCMP. I would love to have one.

Interesting. I have a PDF of an old American Handgunner, March/April 1986 (used to be available online) entitled "The Guns of the RCMP" and it doesn't mention a S&W .45, just the Colt New Service, although surely the author's (Cameron Hopkins) description on that one is a typo as it appears to be a .455, which I believe is correct.

...Then in 1883 the NWMP switched to
Enfield Revolvers, Models of1882 and 1884.
Both fired the .476 Enfield cartridge using a
265 grain bullet at 750 fps. The Enfield
boasted considerably more stopping power
with its .476-inch bore diameter and 265
grain bullet. Like the Adams, it was double-
action but could be fired single-action. The
Enfield's ejection action was a vast improvement. It was a top break design which
allowed the barrel to come forward and
down, pivoting on a transverse pin at the
forward end of the frame. The cylinder was
drawn ahead while the ejector spindle
remained stationary. This breaking action
drew the fired rounds from the cylinder and
they then could be shaken free. To load, the
cylinder was closed and rounds loaded
through a loading gate on the right side of the
frame.

The next handgun in the history of the
RCMP was the Colt New Service in .45
Long Colt firing a 265 grain bullet at 750 fps.
The rugged and reliable Colt stayed with the
RCMP for 49 years as their duty weapon.
During firearms qualification in 1907, a New
Service became the first handgun in RCMP
history to shoot a perfect score of 100. For
you trivia buffs, the RCMP paid $15 each for
their Colts in 1904.

And then in 1954 the RCMP adopted their
current duty sidearm, the Smith and Wesson
.38 Special Military and Police Model. The present day issue is identical to a stock Model
10 except for the addition of a lanyard loop at
the bottom of the grip frame and a five-inch
barrel....

 

[StrawHat]

.. nutt'n special here

i won't be using this as the plinker i wanted it to be, i guess i'll have to find another $125.00 plinker

Sorry to hear it was not original, while we had our doubts, we were still hoping!

The silver lining is you have your plinker.

Enjoy shooting it, it still is a good looking revolver.

Kevin

 

[murphydog]

It is possible the factory work from 10/1951 was the cartridge conversion; just no records of it.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

It is possible the factory work from 10/1951 was the cartridge conversion; just no records of it.

def a factory job...

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

anybody wanna put a value on it ?

 

[raljr1]

Are you selling it?

Robert

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

Are you selling it?

Robert

everything is for sale

 

[ddixie884]

OK I'm not a buyer but I would guesstimate $650.00. I lean toward the factory conversion theory and it is a very nice 2nd model. Heck it might be worth 1K. At least it uses a readily available ctg...............

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

OK I'm not a buyer but I would guesstimate $650.00. I lean toward the factory conversion theory and it is a very nice 2nd model. Heck it might be worth 1K. At least it uses a readily available ctg...............

that would be a good deposit

 

[iskra]

Honorable "Other"...

I lost score here way early!
Probably of no use, but below a few pix of my .45 LC New Service from 1939, showing cylinder length & 'aft gap' as Colt did it!
For any assist???
Best & Stay Safe!

 

[Toyman]

This is a .455 Mark II, 2nd Model HE. There were .45 Colts that were shipped to the Canadian Govt. in Ottawa. So this can plausibly be a standard .455 or a factory .45 Colt. Let's focus on the details first before further speculation.

I don't think that any of these went to RCMP. There is no mention in the book "ARMS AND ACCOUTREMENTS OFTHE MOUNTED POLICE 1873-1973.

The RCMP was buying Colt New Service revolvers first in 455 then in 45 Colt.
There are Colt New Service revolvers that have showed up and letter to Canadian Navy.

 

[Toyman]

This is snapshot from above book about purchase of Colts no mention of S&Ws in the same time frame. There is mention of RCMP buying S&W pocket sized revolvers but no large frame 45 or 444.

 

[Hoosier45]

Roy, he has a letter posted. It's a 2nd Model HE .455 and the serial is too low to have been one of the .45 Colts. It was converted and refinished post WW2 at the factory to .45 Colt.

At the end of the day it's a refinished and converted 2nd Model. A $1300-1800 gun in an auction...due to the quality of factory work, remaining in high condition (post refinish) and a proper .45 Colt cylinder vs a shaved cylind/recoil shield. Several 2nd model .45 Colt conversions in original condition have sold between $700-1100 in the last year. This gun in my opinion has premium over those but it's not a golden nugget.

 

[linde]

For those of us subscribing to the factory conversion theory . . .

Here is a Model 1917 converted by the factory in July 1949 to 45 Colt (with adjustable sights also added). It is complete with a replacement cylinder (and barrel to accommodate the target front sight and reduced barrel set-back).

The replacement 45 Colt cylinder measures 1.57" in length whereas the standard 1917 cylinder in 45 ACP measures a nominal 1.55" (my example measures 1.53").

I didn't recall cylinder length being compared for the OP's 45 Colt example with other 2nd Model 455s ... hope this helps.

Russ