4006 CHP and 4013 sighting

Ethang said:
I just had a nice conversation with Mark regarding the TSW's. He says these are among the cleanest police trades he has ever seen. Excellent condition down to the followers in the magazines. Something else that I don't have any real NEED for but now have a tremendous WANT for...

So will post up when mine comes in.
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This is not an exaggeration, my 4006 TSW is very nice, not perfect, not in the box, but very nice. The integral rail is similar to my Sig X5 and so is the weight. This is the gun that S&W should still make if they wanted to compete in the upper end of the metal frame semi auto market.

The 4013 TSW is not as nice, wear in all the usual aluminum frame areas though not abused. Still it fills a hole in my collection of 40s, maybe it's just a bunch of S&Ws.

No photos, I am technologically incompetent.
 
I have the older CHP 4006 it was a nice clean one the guy who had it must of been a gun guy the D/A pull is very smooth . I was watching the new 4006 Tac from years back when they got them , I would try and get CHP guys to chime in . I now have one on the way. I think it will be here Fri.I saw very few come up for sale once a retired CHP had his for sale but wanted to much .
 
Delayed per usual, but I did get a chance to check them out. I don't typically purchase police trade-ins, so I cannot really compare the condition to others. They came in a priority mail box wrapped in dense white foam, no individual boxes. They had a little more wear than I was anticipating, but I guess they are on par with a 10 year old service weapon. The most intriguing wear mark was a groove in the top part of the bulge at the end of the barrel. All three of them had it in some form and I'm not exactly sure what would cause it. More to come when the delay gets lifted.
 
HCH said:
So with about 7200 sworn officers, Id say the value of my plain Jane 4006 just tanked.
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I wouldn't agree... in two ways.

First, the value of a "plain jane" 4006 hasn't been high in YEARS, so it's not tanking. Secondly, many of us think the TSW guns are particularly gaudy, and prefer the non-TSW versions better. I have a 4566TSW that I got during "the great flood" and heck yeah I would swap it for a clean, no-ugly-billboard-and-horrendous-rail 4566 any day.

No worries whatsoever about your 4006. That pistol was never going to be the down payment on a retirement home anyway. ;)
 
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I think any nice clean older Smith auto is going up you never see them around back in the day some gun shops around here would not even want yours on a trade , different now . They dont make them anymore and they keep going UP .
 
Well, I got mine, and I am very pleased with the condition, the price and the pistol. Before I bought it, I knew it was heavy, I knew it had the integral rail, I knew it was decocker only, I knew it had the bobbed hammer and did not have the trigger play spring. I knew they were used but did not know the true condition until it came in. I am pleased.:)
 

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I also noticed that the CHP barrel had a little groove in the unlocking shoulder that is not on the regular 4006TSW barrel. Take a look at the photo. What is the reason for this? The CHP barrel is the top barrel.
 

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^^^^ that's a great looking gun. Weren't these some grail type guns for some not too long ago?
I don't have any 40's but being a CHP gun, and in that kind of condition............:D
 
RedCardinal said:
I also noticed that the CHP barrel had a little groove in the unlocking shoulder that is not on the regular 4006TSW barrel. Take a look at the photo. What is the reason for this? The CHP barrel is the top barrel.
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Dunno. Not discussed in the last 3rd gen update (done 3 years after the CHP started getting their new guns).

Might be something specific to something one of their agency smiths requested, or, it might just be some ongoing revision or machining change the factory engineers decided to incorporate.

I remember when I saw a change in the barrel lug machining of a 4566TSW barrel, from one gun to the next (as received). When I asked about it, out of curiosity when calling about something else, I was told that they'd made a machining change when the engineers decided the previous way of machining the barrels was no longer necessary. Also, like how they started "breaking" through the little connecting bit of steel between the firing pin channel and the rear of the ejector depressor plunger channel (not something you'd ever even see unless removing the manual safety assembly).

I've got a 4513TSW barrel that has an "extra" lengthwise, shallow groove machined high on the right side of the feedramp. The rearmost end of the cut doesn't interfere with feeding, but looks a bit weird. I've seen another 4513TSW barrel machined the same way, in the same serial number range. I asked about it once and was told that sometimes they may change machining methods for reasons only known to the engineers. (I also wondered if they used a batch of barrels where the CNC machine operator let a minor hiccup slip through, but since it didn't cause any problems they didn't scrap the barrels. ;) )
 
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Well I couldn't help myself. I have been lusting after one of these since they were adoped. The price was just too good! Just got off the phone from placing my order. He said he had a few left and was expecting another shipment tomorrow.

Going to go great with my 4006 Colorado State Patrol in Melonite :)

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Wow, that Colorado State Patrol in melonite blows away the CHP guns with ugly rail, not even close when it comes to curb appeal/looks! What a fine looking pistol. :D
 
Went to Summit's website yesterday, but it appears the latest batch of the 4006TSW's is sold out. Can somebody tell me the price they were asking?
 
I found one a few years ago and obviously paid more than what Summit is asking but that's how things go.
 
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I just picked up my CHP 4006. Mine is in about 90-95% condition. Looks barely shot! The agency serial number on the frame, slide and barrel is E9969. One of the mags had "Geller #11118" on a sticker fixed to the floor plate. Must be the officers name and badge number. Trigger is heavier than my 4026 though.
 
MackTech said:
I just picked up my CHP 4006. Mine is in about 90-95% condition. Looks barely shot! The agency serial number on the frame, slide and barrel is E9969. One of the mags had "Geller #11118" on a sticker fixed to the floor plate. Must be the officers name and badge number. Trigger is heavier than my 4026 though.
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Man, when my CHP buddy talked me into becoming a cop, they were in the 9000 series badge numbers.

Using a printed tape strip (or even older Dymo labeling) became a not uncommon practice for identifying individual LE magazines.

The problem could come when the cop applying the tape/labeling didn't realize he/she still had to allow for the "hole" to be punched so mags that used buttplates and buttplate catches (with posts) could be disassembled for cleaning, as needed. ;)
 
My two 4006TSW (CHP) pistols from Summit arrived yesterday. Both are in truly great shape with very light holster wear on the metal and light to moderate wear on the grips from a decade of daily carry. Neither of the two show any scratches or dings from use. Bores are excellent. The 4006TSW (CHP) was one of my grail guns and I'm extremely pleased with both their condition and the level of service from Summit Gun Broker.

One of the pistols has grips with the curved back strap, so perhaps the officer that had this one swapped out the originals. I kind of like having an example of both types... All six magazines are AccuGuide, two of the six are LEO marked and one has a black follower (the rest are blue).

Lots of new factory spares are floating around right now for this model. You can find original springs, blue followers, firing pins, sights, grips and blue factory polymer boxes at Midway, Brownells, and/or Numrich for very fair prices. Heck, Midway has the recoil springs for $1.99 each! Downloadable copies of the manual are available on the Smith & Wesson site or you can call customer service and they'll send you a printed copy for free.

Many thanks to smith10 for the original post.

rkwood
 
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I watched them since CHP got rid of the older ones and the new gun never came up for sale unless a retired CHP tried to cash in . I saw a few for 900 to 1000 range back then . I did a nice clean older CHP 4006 a gun guy must of had it , has a great trigger and gun was taken care off .
 
Well, I always said that if these came up for sale I'd buy one, despite my dislike of .40 S&W. I guess I'll be calling Summit on my lunchbreak come Monday.

I know a small run of these exact guns were made in 9mm. Does anyone know where they wound up? I'd love to pick up one of those, but the CHP guns will do nicely in the meantime.
 
StickShift said:
Well, I always said that if these came up for sale I'd buy one, despite my dislike of .40 S&W. I guess I'll be calling Summit on my lunch break come Monday.
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The mounting pressure to buy one of these is stunning... :o ... but I really don't have the money right now. :( I'm actually grateful that it *is* a .40 which helps ease the pain I'm feeling just a little. ;)
 
Received mine also. I got one of each, and if they were used, you can't tell. Now, all of the mags for the CHP are marked Law Enforcement. Are these valuable due to that? Maybe we found a new friend for the Forum. Who knows what else he will come up with in the future. On a side note, my FFL said the gentleman at Summit, was polite, knowledgeable, and a pleasure to do business with.
 
Back in 2014, Mark at Summit had Remington 870 Wingmaster riot guns from the early 80s. They were police model trade-ins from the Arizona Highway Patrol, $165 each in a group buy.

So, yes, it definitely pays to keep an eye on the Summit website.
 
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