4064

[pantannojack]

Will we ever see IMR 4064 again? I found some 8# Varget at 45$ per, but don't really want it.

 

[biku324]

Will we ever see IMR 4064 again? I found some 8# Varget at 45$ per, but don't really want it.

Doubt it. I'm burning through my last few pounds of 4320 myself.

 

[Rick H.]

Why don't you want Varget? I use it in multiple loads and it works just fine.

Rick H.

 

[cmj8591]

I think since Hodgdon acquired IMR, they are phasing them out in favor of production of the Hodgdon brands. I heard someplace, and I don't know how true it is, that the IMR powders require some chemicals that are problematic to handle and that had some affect on the decision to stop production. Who knows? I just loaded the last of my IMR 4895. I am replacing it with H4895, which is very similar and performs the same in my military loads for 308 and 30-06. You should be able to do just about everything you could with IMR4064 using Varget and $45 a pound is a pretty good price. I think if you are using IMR's, it might be time to branch out and find some loads using some other brand. That way you'll have a plan B for when your supply runs out.

 

[rockquarry]

Try H4895. It will liklely do all you expect from IMR-4064 and then some. Varget is a good .308 powder but generally falls slightly behind H4895 for accuracy, at least with bullet weights in the 150-180 grain range, though you may get a slightly higher velocity with Varget.

 

[The Norseman]

I’ve branched out too. There are so
many powders out there. I quit
worrying about pet reloads with certain
powders.

I currently have been buying Finland’s
Vihtavuori 100 series powders.
Price is comparable.
Cleanest powders I have ever used.
Sweet smelling when shot.
They have a nice Reload Guide online
too.

The Best to you and your Endeavors.

 

[Dave Haynes]

I spent a lot of time and money trying different powders using the Sierra International 168 in the good Garand. All done at 100 yds using an SR-1 from a bench. The results for me were 5 shot groups you could cover with a US quarter dead center using 4064. The other powders were larger using all of the other powders 4895, Varget and a couple of others. Not dramatic difference but significant differences anyway. Load was also a big factor. with 4064 45 grs it was tea cup sized groups, with 48 in was the tiny ones. Varget works fine so does 4895 but in that rifle and my 2 groove 03A3 (Which shot identical groups). It made a difference.

 

[biku324]

I had a Ted Williams 53 in '06 that would nearly drive nails with any 165 grain bullet and 48.5 grains of 4064. Yet another rifle I never should have sold.

 

[rockquarry]

I spent a lot of time and money trying different powders using the Sierra International 168 in the good Garand. All done at 100 yds using an SR-1 from a bench. The results for me were 5 shot groups you could cover with a US quarter dead center using 4064. The other powders were larger using all of the other powders 4895, Varget and a couple of others. Not dramatic difference but significant differences anyway. Load was also a big factor. with 4064 45 grs it was tea cup sized groups, with 48 in was the tiny ones. Varget works fine so does 4895 but in that rifle and my 2 groove 03A3 (Which shot identical groups). It made a difference.your commenst

My results and yours may be very different, but your comments provide one of the bases for proper and adequate load development; another reason to try a variety of powders if you want the best in accuracy rather than good enough.

 

[kb1903]

I too have had no luck getting IMR 4064, so tried AA4064. I saw no difference in my 03 or M1's. But I have since stopped using 4064 of any brand in favor of 4895, either IMR or hogdens. Still cleans the 200 yard 10 ring with my 03's. Can't ask for more.

 

[Exmilcop]

I got lucky and found 2 lbs. of IMR4064. I have a supremely accurate load with that powder so I grabbed it whenever I came across it. Mind you, up here it ran me around $64. (USD).

 

[GBertolet]

I found that 4064 is the go to powder in the M1. Last year Graef's had some AA4064. I bought 4 lbs of it, and I wish I would have bought more. Can't find it anywhere now.

 

[GSP Fan]

$45/lb for Varget is a steal it's $60 here IF you can find it. That and H4895 which is back in production are two of my favorite powders.